Advice on when to sell up (% rise)



  • @Ericali

    Using your logic of picking a player, setting a target and sticking to it, would suggest that it's correct for one person to get out and simultaneously correct for someone else to get in, and the deciding factor is... the traders personal history.

    How can a player be a good buy and a bad buy at the same time?

    Surely, a player is either a good buy going forward or a bad buy?



  • @Dan-The-Man said in Advice on when to sell up (% rise):

    @Ericali

    Using your logic of picking a player, setting a target and sticking to it, would suggest that it's correct for one person to get out and simultaneously correct for someone else to get in. How can a player be a ood buy and a bad buy at the same time?

    Surely, a player is either a good buy going forward or a bad buy?

    Not quite.

    Depends on the length of time the buyer is willing to hold.

    I could by happy with a 50% rise & off I go.

    The person who buys after I sell could still get a 50% rise, but may have to wait 6 months for it, rather than me waiting substantially less time for my 50%.

    The end result is the same - they are both good buys.



  • Kolarov is a good example.

    I bought at 40p & was banging the drum to the forum.

    I sold at 61p. (Got my 50%)

    Last night he was 78p. Still a great buy for those who bought in after I had sold.

    Both buyers are happy. 😎

    But you have to time the exit, as Kolarov has a shelf life.

    But if you bought at 60p, you've still had nearly a 33% rise in a matter of weeks.



  • Interesting differing views! I'd be interested in your thoughts on a situation I'm currently in. I bought Lewandowski at £1.12 before the season started. Now at £1.54. That's a decent profit and I wouldn't be unhappy in cashing out. However, Poland have 2 fixtures coming up and then he's back to Bayern where he'll probably continue to score regularly. What would you do?



  • @Ericali said in Advice on when to sell up (% rise):

    Not quite.

    The person who buys after I sell could still get a 50% rise but may have to wait 6 months for it, rather than me waiting substantially less for my 50%.

    In which case, I'd say your argument isn't the logic behind your advice.

    You're argument is actually that you think you can get that 50% faster with another player.... so logically you've determined the purchase based on where you can get the money faster, not based on weather or not you've owned the player.



  • @Dan-The-Man doesn't everyone do this? 🤔

    If you saw a goalscorer with a run of easy fixtures would you be tempted to buy now or wait for the moment to pass?

    That's my personal trading strategy.

    Others are happy to ignore the market & plan ahead & buy for a 2-3 year hold.



  • I don't mind paying commission on a winning trade.

    Others think comission is the devil 😈 incarnate.



  • @Ericali said in Advice on when to sell up (% rise):

    @Dan-The-Man doesn't everyone do this? 🤔

    I think we're massively in agreement on the principle of putting your money where it's going to earn the fastest profits.

    Your advice on picking a target and sticking to it, seems counter to that principle though.

    Surely you only get out when you see a better opportunity?



  • @Dan-The-Man said in Advice on when to sell up (% rise):

    @Ericali said in Advice on when to sell up (% rise):

    @Dan-The-Man doesn't everyone do this? 🤔

    I think we're massively in agreement on the principle of putting your money where it's going to earn the fastest profits.

    Your advice on picking a target and sticking to it, seems counter to that principle though.

    Surely you only get out when you see a better opportunity?

    You have identified the "target" because you expect the market to react in a certain way.

    You don't have to specifically get out of one target to go into another. If you have a cash balance you can be in multiple targets at once.



  • @Ericali said in Advice on when to sell up (% rise):

    You have identified the "target" because you expect the market to react in a certain way.

    Sure, and time has passed, so now you evaluate the player again then make a fresh decision.

    I don't think you'd say... I set a target of 30%, I've hit that, therefore I must leave , which is what your original advice was calling for.



  • @Dan-The-Man said in Advice on when to sell up (% rise):

    @Ericali said in Advice on when to sell up (% rise):

    You have identified the "target" because you expect the market to react in a certain way.

    Sure, and time has passed, so now you evaluate the player again then make a fresh decision.

    I don't think you'd say... I set a target of 30%, I've hit that, therefore I must leave , which is what your original advice was calling for.

    That's exactly what I'm saying. 👍

    Who cares if he rises again after I've sold? I don't....

    As long as my next target rises too. If he doesn't, I'll hold until he does.

    He eventually will, or I wouldn't (or shouldn't) have identified him as a target.

    Then sell when he does.



  • @Vaughany how many shares do you have? If you have say 100, maybe market sell 50 of them, bank some profit and gamble with the other ones hoping he does well in the qualifiers.



  • @Ericali

    Right, cool... we're in agreement. Congrats on that 100% return BTW. It's amazing what can be achieved on here.

    @Vaughany
    You need to evaluate the risk, reward, speed of expected return of each player on the market then pick the player who gives you the safest, most significant return at the fastest rate.

    Forget that you own Lewendowski or that you're up 42p on him. It's like flipping a coin, just because you just flipped heads, it doesn't impact what your next flip will be. Is he the best place to put your money or can you see a better place?



  • @matt4567

    1. I'm thinking of holding them until he gets a spike and then maybe sell 75. If he gets a goal in the next 2 games for Poland then he should see a rise.


  • @Dan-The-Man
    Thanks.

    Good question. Honestly, I think I am just worried about missing out on the profit. If he gets an injury in the next game then I'll be kicking myself. I'm tempted to sell some of my shares (not all) during the next game, hopefully at the next time he spikes/everyone else is buying.



  • Seems the thread that suits my question...
    At what price does an IPD player become too expensive?

    I hold some Poulsen and he is now becoming the price where he's too expensive for IPDs only but he won't be winning PB. Maybe some Euros or transfer spec built in? Or that he could eventually be the main man when Werner leaves?
    Thinking off selling up (I'm around 30% in profit) but I did the same with Wheghorst a while back at around £1.10 and watched as he continued to rise!

    Thoughts? Think I'm going to at least sell some and move it to a cheaper IPD player. Building up shares in Hernandez at the minute.



  • @Vaughany personally i just aim to make a profit and i dont generally have a target when i buy. If i can see profit ill buy a player but im always in the market to buy new players i think i can make a profit on. And thats when i decide to sell, when i can see an opportunity elsewhere. It doesnt matter if im up 10%, 20% or 100%. If i can get out in profit and move the money to new player i can see an opportunity to do better in then i will and hopefully maximise profit. I only ask myself does the current profit out weigh what i feel is the potential dividend return on this player or can iearn more somewhere else?



  • @Neil2265 said in Advice on when to sell up (% rise):

    Seems the thread that suits my question...
    At what price does an IPD player become too expensive?

    I hold some Poulsen and he is now becoming the price where he's too expensive for IPDs only but he won't be winning PB. Maybe some Euros or transfer spec built in? Or that he could eventually be the main man when Werner leaves?
    Thinking off selling up (I'm around 30% in profit) but I did the same with Wheghorst a while back at around £1.10 and watched as he continued to rise!

    Thoughts? Think I'm going to at least sell some and move it to a cheaper IPD player. Building up shares in Hernandez at the minute.

    About 60p for pure ipd, so even if said player sits on the bench its fine, it’s all about goals and assist and trading at the right moment.

    Poulsen - he is more a long term hold, transfer, euro20/20 rise. ( small pool of players to win PB in the actual tournamount. Also champions league players can catch the eye. In a good team who win. - better PB chances.



  • @Tom77 60p is rhe limit i put on IPD’s aswell👍

    @Vaughany i should add that what ive said above is completely dependent on the player as some players in my port i consider not for sale unless I absolutely have to



  • really good questions, its something that I and many traders struggle with.

    Like i have some players in my port that are up like 20% - but not sure if to sell or keep holding...


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