The rise & fall of Paul Pogba



  • Bit of an anti pump going on here. Pagey and zola get grief, I admit I've had a pop at zola, but this kind of thing seems to escape. @Ericali if you're happy to be out of pog then fair play, but it seems like you've got a bit of an agenda at this point.

    Cant see what somebody gains from throwing fuel on the fire personally. As I've said, I'm still perfectly happy to hold pog, but there will undoubtedly be ppl with significant money in pog who are a bit panicked at the minute



  • @Ericali sorry to say this mate, but you are quite the stirrer on here. I’ve been united for 37 years also and you should back your players. You are so negative about pogba and people are listening to you. They shouldn’t be as you’re wrong. You were wrong during the summer when you said over and over he would leave and you’ll be wrong now. Mark my words. You probably think Cantona was a better signing than Zidane also..



  • @Sol I certainly do - we never signed Zidane 😉



  • @MickTurbo agreed. Ericali does have an agenda. No question. So bitter and negative. Has the nerve to say he supports the club also. Pogba has been United’s best player. No debate needed.



  • @Ericali I know that. Ferguson had the option of either/or and he chose Cantona. Cantona was great. Zidane IS a legend.



  • @MickTurbo if you look over the Pogba threads over the past 3 months you will be hard pressed to find 10 posts from me about Pogba.

    I've predominantly stayed out of the debate so can't be accused of creating mass panic.



  • @Ericali said in The rise & fall of Paul Pogba:

    @MickTurbo if you look over the Pogba threads over the past 3 months you will be hard pressed to find 10 posts from me about Pogba.

    I've predominantly stayed out of the debate so can't be accused of creating mass panic.

    You say that, but I see otherwise. Shame really.



  • @Sol said in The rise & fall of Paul Pogba:

    @Ericali I know that. Ferguson had the option of either/or and he chose Cantona. Cantona was great. Zidane IS a legend.

    Wrong.

    Cantona kind of recommended Zidane, Cantona was at the club in '92, we didn't look at Zidane until about '95.

    Cantona was the biggest icon at the club since George Best.

    If you followed the club as long as you said, you would know this. 👍



  • @Sol said in The rise & fall of Paul Pogba:

    @Ericali said in The rise & fall of Paul Pogba:

    @MickTurbo if you look over the Pogba threads over the past 3 months you will be hard pressed to find 10 posts from me about Pogba.

    I've predominantly stayed out of the debate so can't be accused of creating mass panic.

    You say that, but I see otherwise. Shame really.

    Must be seeing double then.... Lay off the spirits. 😎



  • @Ericali is correct tho... Pogba has earned a tonne of divs but unfortunately this has been offset by equal, or currently slightly more... Loss in price. Not enough to justify these people losing 50p in spread.

    In terms of yield... Hes being a bit Dan in his timescales when referring to Lukaku. This is very shortsighted. Over a significant time frame pogba is excellent yield... And this current price is a joke. Another reason not to worry as a few div wins will boost him back up.

    Where I disagree with Eric is his perfect hindsight vision... He said a while back he sold because he was 100% sure pogba was leaving... But would rocket if he stayed and even he might buy back in. He seems to have forgotten this... There have been new variables long after his decision to sell that have affected Pogbas price. These are short term problems.... Ipos, the injury, general market downturn etc.

    Pogba has generated a partisan atmosphere between holders and dumpers so every thread that opens will have staunch defenders.... Myself, @MickTurbo , @NallyCat, @Sol et Al. And it's detractors... @Ericali and @Tom77 (aka eyore).

    I think that's why these threads have become so boring to level headed centrists like @janner73

    My bet is Eric will buy back into Pogba long before I sell ☺



  • @Ericali I didnt go as far as to say you were spreading mass panic. But without trawling through threads I would have to disagree that you havent made 10 posts.

    Just seems like you're head working people and seems strange for a none holder. For example, I dont hold neymar, I have definitely mentioned him once or twice but very few and far between. I believe you do hold neymar and I suspect your agenda is based on the reasoning that money coming out of pog will go into neymar.

    I'm not spoiling for a fight or owt like that but it does seem that way to me



  • Everyone is entitled to an opinion wheather u hold that player or not. 1 month ago I had a choice between Pogba and neymar so went with who I think is the better player and also from peoples opinions on here who claim neymar is a bit of a pb beast. Seems like I made the right choice at this moment in time and as I’m only new on here I get the impression because of Utd being shit last year and also a very public fallout between Jose and Pogba that allowed Pogba to clean up on Mb so taking that into consideration this year he’s not gonna return the same amount of divs. BUT in football things can change with a blink of an eye so for u Pogba holders let’s hope Utd are shit again this year and Pogba has a very public fallout with anyone but if that don’t happen I’d expect his price to drop more. This is probably the 3rd time I’ve commented on a Pogba thread and each time I’ve said I expect him to drop a little more and he has! unfortunately I still think the same but do wish for u holders he 🚀🚀🚀 good luck



  • @MickTurbo can honestly say I don't hold Neymar. Worries with his injuries & the fact Brazilians are usually on the scrapheap by 30.

    The dearest player I own is sub £3. I've mentioned it on threads before.

    The value is lower down the market & that's where I'm choosing to operate with my cash. 💰

    I'm simply pointing out why no new cash is coming in for Pogba.



  • Yesterday's price, today's price, tomorrow's price...None of this effects his dividend yield. I want a sizeable hold in Pogba, currently on 892 and topping up to 1000. He was always a MB hold, with possible PB wins, now it is starting to look like CA is an appeal too which is an unexpected bonus.

    So many comments on numerous threads about using the one year graph to predict future prices, we can all see how high he was in the past and how high he can possibly be again in the future.

    Also numerous threads and comments about being ahead of the curve, trend, whatever. Pogba is clearly not flavour of the month at the moment, that just adds to his appeal for me. Things cycle on here and Pogba and the proven dividend earners will have their day again soon...



  • @Vespasian32 that's a lot to respond to & it's getting late, but...

    "Where I disagree with Eric is his perfect hindsight vision... He said a while back he sold because he was 100% sure pogba was leaving... But would rocket if he stayed and even he might buy back in. He seems to have forgotten this... There have been new variables long after his decision to sell that have affected Pogbas price. These are short term problems.... Ipos, the injury, general market downturn etc."

    I was sure Pogba was leaving, I also said he would rocket after the transfer window closed - I was wrong on both counts. 😐

    But I disagree, they are not short term problems - the fact he wants to move is holding his price back. He's not getting any new money invested in any great quantity.

    And this will remain to be the elephant in the room until he either goes in the next one or two transfer windows, or his signs a new contract.



  • Think this is all getting a bit blown over the amount of back and forwards paragraphs becoming slightly more aggressive each time from my view. This is a forum! It was made for one reason. That is for us to discuss our common interest of FI a brilliant scheme that has brought us all together. We won’t all agree otherwise there wouldn’t be anything to speak about however we understand viewpoints from certain people (don’t want to really single out but everyone knows the sides)and only time will tell , there is no point being malicious and backdating 35years. Good luck to the people who ride the pogba boat and good luck to people who have other methods in the index. It has all been a bit blown over imo and has become quite a repetitive theme with all the same users involved, ( I don’t know how many ghosts actually take this in) .Just my opinion after reading all the back and forth

    It’s got to the point where everyone has to agree and not try to rub salt into each other wounds because this is a great environment and we all need to appreciate that we have all / mostly made profit from our experience and will likely make more money which ever way forwards if FI continues it’s trajectory.



  • @Ericali fair enough if I'm wrong about neymar.

    Thing is, yes hes dropped even further tonight, but it seems pretty obvious to me that anyone wanting to buy into ronaldo has took the opportunity to do so with a guaranteed immediate 4p boost for ipds and probably media tomorrow so nows a great time. Similar comments apply to sancho. Therefore I'm not the slightest bit suprised that pog is down another 4p or whatever it is. Its rational.

    The drop as a whole is kind of rational. Hes injured and hes been quiet on the MB front. Most players rise and fall from time to time. Because its pog it seems a big deal and people get twitchy.

    Rashica gof injured and instantly dropped significantly. Hannes wolf same again. CHO, the biggest drop I've seen, and experienced traders basically shrugged their shoulders and bought the dip and there was barely a word said about anything being terminal.

    I just think people arent thinking straight with pog at the minute and it seems there's a few comments that are aimed at stirring the pot that's all



  • I've only got a small golding in Pogba (43 Futures) but have to agree that his price is massively inflated on the anticipation of Media Dividends.

    He has had a minor injury so has not been in the media in the last couple of weeks but is due to return at the weekend.

    If rumours are correct United have met with agent (Raiola) and have named his price to Madrid for January, £178 million.

    Not sure how accurate this might be and what impact it will have on his price but.....

    If he plays at the weekend and is MOM or completely Shite it really does not matter because if he has had a new stupid new hair cut or farts when giving an interview then MB here we come.

    I usually only buy players with talent (Pogba is when he can be arsed) and not sure how long I will hold but 1 thing is certain if you are chasing MB then you need Pogba in your port. (I dont really chase MB so will likely sell once he hits MB 3-4 days on the trot)



  • @janner73
    Pogba holders want him to rise that's reason they talk about him so often lol
    he is Media guy, they talk about him on daily basic, so dividends are certain. I avoided him, his cost to much I prefer cheaper options and more shares. Hope he will get some dividends for you thanks to him performance not just Media :)



  • @JT-United-Scout Of course - I want him to rise too. But talking him about so much bores non-holders and, if anything, has the opposite effect. the forum is very clearly split on both sides of the Pogba argument. He won't rise until he starts winning dividends again and that's why I say i'll let the dividend yield do the talking. As soon as he hits a run of MB he'll rise but until then he'll continue to decline gradually and all the threads in the world won't change that.


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