Port (bleeding badly)



  • @ScouseSte I’ve only been on a few months and put a fair bit in so I’m not looking at leaving anytime soon but I get your frustration especially with Salah every time I look at him just don’t get it. Just a thought if you were to leave maybe take out what you’ve put in then at least that way your only left playing with profit. Could make it less stressful. Good luck on what you decide 👍



  • @MickTurbo

    What is bonkers is i signed up on 21st September last year. ... didn't realise it was FIs birthday until now hahaha!
    I can't access my account till 22nd though so at least I've given it a year!
    Who knows, if some good news is announced on 21st then I might be swayed to a more 50-50 stance on whether to leave/remain (sorry @Ericali I don't mean politics here mate ha!).

    But if FI celebrate their 4th birthday by giving away a frigging Fulham training bra and a car sticker then it's UP THE ROOOAAADD!



  • @Carboney not a bad suggestion that mate 👍



  • @ScouseSte said in Port (bleeding badly):

    @Carboney said in Port (bleeding badly):

    @ScouseSte I’m not doing to bad but after hitting a previous high a few days ago I’m back down about £100 from that and my hardest hits have come from Salah hazard and jota I’m trying to be patient but it’s the big boys that are shitting on me right now. Salah got goals against arsenal and was about £5.10 and now he’s about£4.65 just don’t get that 1 as he’s actually playing well

    Yea I think the Salah drop is one of the ones that's really giving me the incentive to cash out of FI.
    He's scoring, he wins media divs, he's the main man in the team that is top of the league for at least another week or two. Yet he has dropped FORTY F****NG PENCE in a couple of weeks!!

    I know FI has never been completely logic but there really can be no justification for such a loss in value.

    The game has changed too much in the past few weeks and I don't like it anymore. I've tried playing the IPD game - not for me. I've tried timing out so I don't tinker too much with my solid holds (or what I ASSUMED were solid holds!) but every time I come back my port has nosedived further.

    On Sunday, my third timeout expires. I'm 75-25 in favour of market listing the lot, if I'm honest.

    When the fun stops, stop. 😐

    It all changed when they brought in IPDs to target the short-term gambler. They're so trigger happy, chasing the quick profit, the platform doesn't make sense anymore with its volatility. A good knowledge of football is almost meaningless here, now.



  • @ScouseSte I'm not ready to pull the plug yet but if anything pushed me to it, it wouldnt be the drops, although obviously there would come a point, but it would just be the boredom of seeing my players drop to fund nonsensical rises on players that in most cases I'd never bother with at anywhere near their prices.

    Maybe saka is somebody i could have looked at but not the rest of them weve seen lately.



  • Things must be bad if people who know what they are doing worried.
    I got into PB players lost , sold tried to jump onto a rising player but pick the worst one..

    Are there more new young players on FI (IPO's) that people are taking profit out of the reliable players and putting into these, this year plus has Europe competitions and internationals fucked it all up in a short space of time??

    I've ploughed into Rooney for MB opening up
    Utd need a goalscorer and old Trafford needs an entertainer..
    Zlatan Ibrahimovic surely Jan he'll be back for a while so instead of chasing I'll wait the Circus to arrive...

    Hope your ports rise once again 🤞



  • Very hard at moment desperate need dividends increase as no value at the top, PB players struggling for me hopefully couple good performances and turns them around seems like a lucky dip with young non pb lge players at moment



  • @Londoner said in Port (bleeding badly):

    @ScouseSte said in Port (bleeding badly):

    @Carboney said in Port (bleeding badly):

    @ScouseSte I’m not doing to bad but after hitting a previous high a few days ago I’m back down about £100 from that and my hardest hits have come from Salah hazard and jota I’m trying to be patient but it’s the big boys that are shitting on me right now. Salah got goals against arsenal and was about £5.10 and now he’s about£4.65 just don’t get that 1 as he’s actually playing well

    Yea I think the Salah drop is one of the ones that's really giving me the incentive to cash out of FI.
    He's scoring, he wins media divs, he's the main man in the team that is top of the league for at least another week or two. Yet he has dropped FORTY F****NG PENCE in a couple of weeks!!

    I know FI has never been completely logic but there really can be no justification for such a loss in value.

    The game has changed too much in the past few weeks and I don't like it anymore. I've tried playing the IPD game - not for me. I've tried timing out so I don't tinker too much with my solid holds (or what I ASSUMED were solid holds!) but every time I come back my port has nosedived further.

    On Sunday, my third timeout expires. I'm 75-25 in favour of market listing the lot, if I'm honest.

    When the fun stops, stop. 😐

    It all changed when they brought in IPDs to target the short-term gambler. They're so trigger happy, chasing the quick profit, the platform doesn't make sense anymore with its volatility. A good knowledge of football is almost meaningless here, now.

    Yea I agree IPDs were probably the catalyst to where we are now. I joined the month before they were introduced and a lot of the old guard sold up and left.
    Personally I grew to like IPDs because they allowed that little bonus if a recent purchase you made scored. They'd rise on the back of a goal and then drop a little after midnight, but not to a level lower than pre-match.

    The crazy thing now though is this...

    Nobody is interested in buying players to win 1p per goal in play. Nobody. The current trend is to buy players early enough who we think other traders will buy that THEY think will score (to win them divs that they don't actually care about, just cap app) and then SELL these players when the teams are announced. That's the new way to play football index and win.
    Shite



  • @ScouseSte said in Port (bleeding badly):

    @Londoner said in Port (bleeding badly):

    @ScouseSte said in Port (bleeding badly):

    @Carboney said in Port (bleeding badly):

    @ScouseSte I’m not doing to bad but after hitting a previous high a few days ago I’m back down about £100 from that and my hardest hits have come from Salah hazard and jota I’m trying to be patient but it’s the big boys that are shitting on me right now. Salah got goals against arsenal and was about £5.10 and now he’s about£4.65 just don’t get that 1 as he’s actually playing well

    Yea I think the Salah drop is one of the ones that's really giving me the incentive to cash out of FI.
    He's scoring, he wins media divs, he's the main man in the team that is top of the league for at least another week or two. Yet he has dropped FORTY F****NG PENCE in a couple of weeks!!

    I know FI has never been completely logic but there really can be no justification for such a loss in value.

    The game has changed too much in the past few weeks and I don't like it anymore. I've tried playing the IPD game - not for me. I've tried timing out so I don't tinker too much with my solid holds (or what I ASSUMED were solid holds!) but every time I come back my port has nosedived further.

    On Sunday, my third timeout expires. I'm 75-25 in favour of market listing the lot, if I'm honest.

    When the fun stops, stop. 😐

    It all changed when they brought in IPDs to target the short-term gambler. They're so trigger happy, chasing the quick profit, the platform doesn't make sense anymore with its volatility. A good knowledge of football is almost meaningless here, now.

    Yea I agree IPDs were probably the catalyst to where we are now. I joined the month before they were introduced and a lot of the old guard sold up and left.
    Personally I grew to like IPDs because they allowed that little bonus if a recent purchase you made scored. They'd rise on the back of a goal and then drop a little after midnight, but not to a level lower than pre-match.

    The crazy thing now though is this...

    Nobody is interested in buying players to win 1p per goal in play. Nobody. The current trend is to buy players early enough who we think other traders will buy that THEY think will score (to win them divs that they don't actually care about, just cap app) and then SELL these players when the teams are announced. That's the new way to play football index and win.
    Shite

    Unfortunately, FI make too much money to drop IPDs. To balance the platform, maybe they can make IPDs last 3 months, instead of 1. This may encourage long-term holders to get involved in them. Traders will buy more shares in scorers/assisters, knowing that you have a guaranteed 3 months of IPDs flowing into your account.



  • @Londoner yea but would they still be just looking at budget players though? Or would they invest in the solid earners?

    Jeez remember when Pogba and Neymar were £20 each? ? That was only Jan/Feb!

    Yet now people are scoffing at playing £5 or £6 for established, regular dividend earners.

    I dont want to sound defeatist but I feel the majority of the FI userbase has changed in a very short space of time and the new behaviours bring in some much more revenue (commission) for FI .
    With this in mind, I don't think FI will change a thing. They'll not be worried if a few big fish pull out because the likelihood is they are sitting on hundreds of Pogba and neymar etc that they have held for 2-3 years and haven't contributed to the commission coffers.

    This is no longer a football stock market. It's a punters paradise and, just like Ladbrokes or Coral , in the end only the bookie really wins.
    Significant dividend increases might rectify this slightly but I don't see it happening



  • @Londoner I agree. But don’t forget that the ‘ipd market’ is sodden now and there will be stacks of people losing. It’s a race to who gets out first.
    When this area loses its appeal, either the pb or mb holds gain or the market stagnates and FI will need to react with a dividend increase.



  • @MickTurbo Yes. Of all the crazy youth rises recently. Saka is the one that makes sense, he had a blinding game in last years Europa league when he’d just turned 17.



  • People keep saying the footie is rising so this means more new money is coming in.

    This new money could be the new traders who short term gamble, let’s say 1000 new short term traders every day.

    However there might be 100 bigger traders who understand how the platform work that are leaving and selling up their portfolios which consist of the high end known dividend earners.

    So while the footie continues to grow at a slower rate the platform is changing much more into an risky 50/50 chance of winning or losing ?

    In the end the platform will just be full of gamblers where majority lose and bookies win?



  • A very simple way of not losing money during this time is to not sell. It's only a loss when you do.

    If you've bought wisely then you'll be fine.

    If you haven't, well, Fred won top PB yesterday so there's always a chance you'll get lucky!

    Chill people, it'll all be good, like it always is✌️



  • @Mr-Random-number said in Port (bleeding badly):

    In the end the platform will just be full of gamblers where majority lose and bookies win?

    Its always going to end like that - once market cap is reached money will just pass between traders with FI taking their 2%.
    Trader behaviour at the moment is potentially getting us their faster - or at least making it look that way. Smart traders prey on people's emotions, vulnerabilities and fear of being in the red.
    The vast majority of people are following trends rather than looking for the next one, and its a sure fire way to end up buying at peaks and having to sell at a loss or hold in the red for a long time.
    I've been around long enough to be confident this is just another trend - and so don't panic and hold on to players you believe in. We've had the pre-season English youth phase, followed by the new matrix PB performers phase, and now the non PB youth phase. It's just a question of what comes next.



  • @ScouseSte said in Port (bleeding badly):

    @Londoner said in Port (bleeding badly):

    @ScouseSte said in Port (bleeding badly):

    @Carboney said in Port (bleeding badly):

    @ScouseSte I’m not doing to bad but after hitting a previous high a few days ago I’m back down about £100 from that and my hardest hits have come from Salah hazard and jota I’m trying to be patient but it’s the big boys that are shitting on me right now. Salah got goals against arsenal and was about £5.10 and now he’s about£4.65 just don’t get that 1 as he’s actually playing well

    Yea I think the Salah drop is one of the ones that's really giving me the incentive to cash out of FI.
    He's scoring, he wins media divs, he's the main man in the team that is top of the league for at least another week or two. Yet he has dropped FORTY F****NG PENCE in a couple of weeks!!

    I know FI has never been completely logic but there really can be no justification for such a loss in value.

    The game has changed too much in the past few weeks and I don't like it anymore. I've tried playing the IPD game - not for me. I've tried timing out so I don't tinker too much with my solid holds (or what I ASSUMED were solid holds!) but every time I come back my port has nosedived further.

    On Sunday, my third timeout expires. I'm 75-25 in favour of market listing the lot, if I'm honest.

    When the fun stops, stop. 😐

    It all changed when they brought in IPDs to target the short-term gambler. They're so trigger happy, chasing the quick profit, the platform doesn't make sense anymore with its volatility. A good knowledge of football is almost meaningless here, now.

    Yea I agree IPDs were probably the catalyst to where we are now. I joined the month before they were introduced and a lot of the old guard sold up and left.
    Personally I grew to like IPDs because they allowed that little bonus if a recent purchase you made scored. They'd rise on the back of a goal and then drop a little after midnight, but not to a level lower than pre-match.

    The crazy thing now though is this...

    Nobody is interested in buying players to win 1p per goal in play. Nobody. The current trend is to buy players early enough who we think other traders will buy that THEY think will score (to win them divs that they don't actually care about, just cap app) and then SELL these players when the teams are announced. That's the new way to play football index and win.
    Shite

    Agree with this and its been talked about in a few threads.

    I like ipd... But yes... It should act as a little intro bonus to kick start new users profit when they buy likes of kane, mbappe, neymar... See some instant return because pb and mb are less frequent and not winning any divs for a new user in the first month could be off putting.

    Ipds should also keep some value in the 90% of the market that will never win pb or MB... B

    But the skew towards ipd value post split has just wrecked any sense the market had.

    I share your sentiments scouser... But I'm not quite at the sell up and out stage.



  • Still keep thinking how big an effect the start up bonuses are making & how much fake money is actually in the platform, these people aren’t really going to give a shit about PB & MB until they actually put their own money in.
    How is this affecting the footie & the platform, anybody got any thoughts?



  • I think the forum is very depressing reading at the moment.

    Go and listen to Fig ‘’s latest podcast for a bit of positivity 👍



  • @Tom77 said in Port (bleeding badly):

    I think the forum is very depressing reading at the moment.

    Go and listen to Fig ‘’s latest podcast for a bit of positivity 👍

    All summer was rocket emojis everywhere! Gotta take the rough with the smooth - we can't all have our ports rocketing all the time. I'm pretty sure if everyone zooms out and looks at their 6 month profit figures they'll still be very happy. Times like this it's vital to stay calm and level-headed.



  • It all started that sunday night when luis muriel came off the bench for atalanta and scored a hat trick. That was a high point for my port as I held 300 of him and was well happy with the rise, little did I know it was the start of all this.

    I've made a decision to give it till the end of October. If were still seeing this current market behaviour then I'm gone, simply because this is not what I signed up for.

    May seem hypocritical after the advice I was offering scouse last night but the truth is I really cannot disagree with him


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