Liverpool's March To Champions League Triumph



  • @Ericali The matrix is the same, only the prizes changed. The money that could have been won is irrelevant to someone who is new to the platform looking to make a long term investment. Its been and gone.

    And its kind of funny you have used that argument about being a depreciating asset against trent without speculating about the future growth of the platform but you are ignoring vvds depreciation since the summer but speculate hell be fine with the growth of the platform. Kind of checkmated your own argument there mate.



  • @dionysusthyrsus said in Liverpool's Champions League Exit tonight:

    @Ericali The matrix is the same, only the prizes changed. The money that could have been won is irrelevant to someone who is new to the platform looking to make a long term investment. Its been and gone.

    And its kind of funny you have used that argument about being a depreciating asset against trent without speculating about the future growth of the platform but you are ignoring vvds depreciation since the summer but speculate hell be fine with the growth of the platform. Kind of checkmated your own argument there mate.

    Anyone under the age of 30 will probably be an appreciating asset over the next 3 years.

    When I called him a depreciating asset it was more an indication of where he is now as I called Kimmich that too.

    Do I think Kimmich will be worth more in 3 years than he is now? Of course I do!

    What i said depreciating asset it's because the market is currently correcting itself after a rapid rise.

    This could take 6 months, it could take 12-18 months if matrix changes occur.....

    Do I think TAA will be higher than £6.35 in 3 years time? The answer again is "yes" but it's not really that smart to have such vasts amounts of money tied up to break even or win a few pence for that long is it? 🤔

    If you still think he's great value - you buy more. Nothing like showing your confidence in him as a hold than buying vasts amounts on the dips is there. 😎



  • @Ericali said in Liverpool's Champions League Exit tonight:

    And I'm glad you pointed out that 3 of his (TAA) PB wins were on the old matrix as @janner73 this morning was indicating otherwise to back up his price on the new matrix.

    Eric wasn't reading again so he didn't get the difference between new matrix and new dividend structure.
    All his wins this season were on the new matrix as it changed at the start of the season. 3 of his wins were on the old payouts as the new payout structure was introduced on 1st November. It's not difficult Eric if you read before you start writing a response.



  • I see Wolves are swooping in for Hwang Hee-Chan. Must be on the back of his fantastic UCL performances for RB Salzburg. Just mentioned in the Telegraph now. Surey very undervalued if he ends up in a PB league. Already won me a top forward PB in one UCL match.



  • @TeamGB Is he though? He's 24 in January. 4 goals in 32 games for Korea may give a greater indication of his impact. I can see him moving though whilst he's talk of the town. I'm sure Salzburg will be keen to cash in. It's kinda what they do. For that reason he could see some decent rises



  • @Dalien-Smith One thing I can say is that if you haven’t done your research then you’ll not realise how much he’s improved in the last year. Apparently he was being played out of his natural position by club and country for some time and now he’s flourishing and appears to be playing with confidence he didn’t have before. As I’m sure you know this can happen to players and they massively up their game. Give the lad a chance I’d say. His stats are a major improvement this season if you check them out on SofaScore.



  • I'm not convinced. The fact you've admitted he can be positionally inflexible makes him less attractive to invest if he is moving to a new club to fit into a new team. But Wolves maybe convinced. For that reason he's a reason to buy.



  • @Dalien-Smith Fair enough, we’re all entitled to our own opinions. I just read the article linked to him and apparently Wolves have serious competition for Hwang from other premier league clubs. Doesn’t mention which ones though and they’re looking to secure a deal in January.



  • @TeamGB I don't believe him but doesn't mean I don't see a short to medium term flip opportunity. Salzburg will be keen to get shut given his age. They really need to capitalise now on his success. I'd be 95% sure he'd move in one the next 2 windows. If not this window Salzburg are seeded in the Europa League so it could be the start of a decent run in that. Once he's sold though that will probably be it for me



  • @Ericali If you were a scout on football manager for all things football index you would score 19 out of 20 for spotting potential. You are great in that area of the market. Around these parts you are king, i think most would eat their humble pie and agree with that. The evidence doesnt lie and much props to you, i bow to your crown genuinely in that area of the market, you are brilliant. As a caveat though you did once say that oyarzabal was a better player than odegaard which shows you do like to drop an ear deafening ripper of a fart and pass it off as an opinion sometimes.

    If you were a data analyst on football manger for all things football index you would score maybe a 3 out of 20. U would point to Ade Akinbiyis goalscoring record for wolves and use that to try to represent him in a way that made him look like a better footballer than Dennis Bergkamp if it suited you to do so.



  • @dionysusthyrsus 😂😂

    Like the analogies - Yeh, I'm more than happy to stand by that bet of Oyarzabal being a better buy than Odegaard.

    It probably was only about 3 months ago I said it, Odegaard will eventually go back to obscurity in Read Madrid reserves or get sold to someone like Ajax & Oyarzabal will establish himself in the Spanish national team & get a move to a better club in La Liga or rock up in the Premier League outfit.

    Time will be kind to me on that prediction. 😎

    I remember once having a discussion with a work colleague about who was the better player out of Jose Antonio Reyes (RIP) & Cristiano Ronaldo.

    Arsenal & Manchester United were the top 2 teams in the country at the time & Reyes was ripping it up - history didn't judge his prediction too kindly either & I still remind him of it. 👍



  • "U would point to Ade Akinbiyis goalscoring record for wolves and use that to try to represent him in a way that made him look like a better footballer than Dennis Bergkamp if it suited you to do so."

    ^^^
    @dionysusthyrsus Not so. I don't buy shiiiiite & pretend they are something they are not - I buy shiiiiite if I think they will have an exit point where they will spike & I can profit.

    Bernard at Everton was an example the other day. Not playing, the manager gets sacked - he rises 15%, I sell - job done. 👍

    Eric Dier was another.



  • You only have to look at West Ham too to see what's going to happen next - join the dots. 😎



  • Now Minamino is flying after this Liverpool game to join Hwang. Next will be Daka I’m pretty certain. Just seen Liverpool are looking to sign him. Get on the other young Salzburg guys before it’s too late as their all going to shoot up soon enough.



  • @TeamGB Fun watching people IS Kane to get on a player that's already had a 35% plus rise. FOMO at it's finest.



  • @janner73 said in Liverpool's Champions League Exit tonight:

    @TeamGB Fun watching people IS Kane to get on a player that's already had a 35% plus rise. FOMO at it's finest.

    It's a bit mad instant selling decent holds but then again Minamino could be a potential striker for the European champions and premier league title contenders. That's going to generate a lot of media (especially because UNITED are also linked). At £1.58 currently, it isn't a bad deal for traders in my humble opinion. I'm soooooo tempted 😓😓



  • @ScouseSte He was a good flip if you got on early enough. I cant see him getting in the Liverpool side as a starter until at least next season tho so after this initial hype he's priced about right now for me.



  • I'm gutted, I almost bought 300 last week with cl in mind, I didn't, I plumped for djibril sow instead, down 4p in a week instead of doubling my money



  • Bet he drops just as quick either when the deal doesn't happen, or they realise he is just there for shirt sales and wont play much.

    Origi as a reserve is the same age and is 60p cheaper.

    If you got on early into the rise, and are getting out soon i have to say fair play.



  • @DJ-110 Hype will take him higher in the short-term. Can see him hitting £2 in the short-term but when he's a regular bench warmer in Feb he'll drop back down. Next season at the earliest before he's starting regularly.


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