Can someone official please get us an explanation?



  • @Marksandygill nail on the head. πŸ‘Œ

    It also gives newer users the same ground level chance as older users.

    In fact, the only "losers" here, are the people aimlessly buying the top 10 & expecting them to constantly πŸš€

    Hello people - there's a whole market out there not just the top 10!

    The move will benefit the other 95% - it's a genius move.



  • The goalkeeper divs are hardly game changing they will soon look overpriced.
    Its another β€˜toy’ to muck around with for 5 minutes.



  • Short term it may not look pretty, but if these changes lead to loads of new users joining the platform over the next year, along with FIs marketing push, then FI can do a large dividend increase next year to accompany the market growth, rather than one now to create growth in a slightly stagnant period. I guess you could call it organically growing the market rather than artificially growing it. Just a positive look anyway. The other option is FI are stingy twats.



  • The only thing that looks overpriced now is the top end, due to everyone inflating the market the past few weeks expecting ridiculous dividend increases.

    We are heading for the largest recession in living memory people - wake up!

    Meanwhile, i've been doing the exact opposite of the market again (knowing this thing goes in cycles) & I'm feeling pretty smug this morning knowing the rest of the market will now close the gap on the expensive top end.



  • @Ericali said it before and I'll say it again, I normally find people like you total twats but cant help but agree with most things you say on here 🀣



  • @Stevo thanks - I think 🀣



  • @Ericali no total compliment I promise, others on here are just twats without the plus side.



  • Is this really a thread where people who hold the most expensive players are upset because goalkeepers got a rise and their div earners have suffered a dip?

    With the CL/EL multiplier applied to TOTM they may as well get rid of two thirds of players on the Index. They may as well just IPO players at those clubs when they qualify for Europe. At least they made goalkeepers relevant. Your div earners are going to earn you more divs!



  • @PaulM said in Can someone official please get us an explanation?:

    Is this really a thread where people who hold the most expensive players are upset because goalkeepers got a rise and their div earners have suffered a dip?

    With the CL/EL multiplier applied to TOTM they may as well get rid of two thirds of players on the Index. They may as well just IPO players at those clubs when they qualify for Europe. At least they made goalkeepers relevant. You div earners are going to earn you more divs!

    The top end will be fine.

    Media is still media and most of the top end attract that, whilst the TOTM is going to likely benefit half of the top 10. There might be some price corrections on the youth aspect but nothing drastic. GK FOMO will die down shortly and it will be business as usual.
    Bloody love it!



  • @Marksandygill

    This is a good point. Introduction of GKs into matrix may harm the porfolios now, but it further entices new users onto the platform as months go by.



  • @Ericali said in Can someone official please get us an explanation?:

    @Marksandygill nail on the head. πŸ‘Œ

    It also gives newer users the same ground level chance as older users.

    In fact, the only "losers" here, are the people aimlessly buying the top 10 & expecting them to constantly πŸš€

    Hello people - there's a whole market out there not just the top 10!

    The move will benefit the other 95% - it's a genius move.

    I'm curious to why you think this benefits the other 95%?
    The top 10 are priced that way as they have the highest chance of earning dividends (either presently or future potential). By adding the totm wouldn't this benefit them? Especially when they're also likely to be playing European football.
    I don't see how this benefits the lower end other than GKs. Surely any money coming out of the top end right now is to go into GKs?



  • The top end suffered yesterday because they had the tightest spreads & most people had a healthy cushion of profit.

    It was logical to take the money from there to move into goalkeepers - no one is going to take a 40% hit lower down when you have a 5% spread at the top end are they?

    The top end should roughly maintain they price, they have increased dividends a bit, & they have all had a 20-30% growth previous to the announcement.

    I wouldn't expect much growth from them next season but they will return the most dividends - as expected if you are paying a premium.

    The CA will come from lower down as the undervalued PB players will catch up.



  • A statement regarding the removal of IS without notice would be appreciated too.
    Granted, it may be in really small writing somewhere in the Ts and Cs, but was it morally the correct action to take.
    What value are you putting on the amount of goodwill that has been lost.

    Traders want confidence in a product.

    They want clarity.

    They want questions answered.

    There are already serious rumblings. Please do not wait to address these issues when serious money is being withdrawn.



  • @Wolf said in Can someone official please get us an explanation?:

    @Ericali said in Can someone official please get us an explanation?:

    @Marksandygill nail on the head. πŸ‘Œ

    It also gives newer users the same ground level chance as older users.

    In fact, the only "losers" here, are the people aimlessly buying the top 10 & expecting them to constantly πŸš€

    Hello people - there's a whole market out there not just the top 10!

    The move will benefit the other 95% - it's a genius move.

    I'm curious to why you think this benefits the other 95%?
    The top 10 are priced that way as they have the highest chance of earning dividends (either presently or future potential). By adding the totm wouldn't this benefit them? Especially when they're also likely to be playing European football.
    I don't see how this benefits the lower end other than GKs. Surely any money coming out of the top end right now is to go into GKs?

    I don't own a player over Β£3.

    My portfolio has been doing nothing since they announced they were increasing dividends despite a lot of my players having proven or possible PB potential.

    I agree the top 10 has the best chance of winning dividends, you expect that as they are already priced as a premium - but what the top end didn't expect was a 2p increase on a gold day & a 1p on a silver day!

    People were buying these players talking about a 100% increase πŸ˜‚

    What I'm saying is they have already had their rise (if not more!) in line with what dividends were actually increased.

    I wouldn't touch them at current prices for rewards on offer - people will look lower down for the players who have been forgotten about.



  • @Dronny-Gaz traders want confidence in the product? They have just created a new niche where everyone is on ground zero. (Goalkeepers)

    We have had a dividend increase that rewards performances on the pitch.

    I'm happy to cut my cloth accordingly, even if I aim for 50% next year rather than 100%.

    Even at my lowest estimate, if this place returns 25% per annum where else are you getting that sort of return in today's market?

    Nowhere.



  • @Ericali said in Can someone official please get us an explanation?:

    @Wolf said in Can someone official please get us an explanation?:

    @Ericali said in Can someone official please get us an explanation?:

    @Marksandygill nail on the head. πŸ‘Œ

    It also gives newer users the same ground level chance as older users.

    In fact, the only "losers" here, are the people aimlessly buying the top 10 & expecting them to constantly πŸš€

    Hello people - there's a whole market out there not just the top 10!

    The move will benefit the other 95% - it's a genius move.

    I'm curious to why you think this benefits the other 95%?
    The top 10 are priced that way as they have the highest chance of earning dividends (either presently or future potential). By adding the totm wouldn't this benefit them? Especially when they're also likely to be playing European football.
    I don't see how this benefits the lower end other than GKs. Surely any money coming out of the top end right now is to go into GKs?

    I don't own a player over Β£3.

    My portfolio has been doing nothing since they announced they were increasing dividends despite a lot of my players having proven or possible PB potential.

    I agree the top 10 has the best chance of winning dividends, you expect that as they are already priced as a premium - but what the top end didn't expect was a 2p increase on a gold day & a 1p on a silver day!

    People were buying these players talking about a 100% increase πŸ˜‚

    What I'm saying is they have already had their rise (if not more!) in line with what dividends were actually increased.

    I wouldn't touch them at current prices for rewards on offer - people will look lower down for the players who have been forgotten about.

    The problem is that they've done nothing to address the imbalance between the top and the lower end specifically, just done a bit of a shit pb increase which now doesn't look as good to the top end. The chances of winning pb are basically the same, so you pay a premium to get better odds if you buy at the top.
    They've added all the value to GKs so why would anyone buy any player for Β£1 who wasn't a GK? That GK could play in a bronze day with just one or three other players to compete with.
    For me this just makes a larger chuck of the lower end irrelevant.



  • @Ericali
    Say what you want to try and calm traders edginess.
    I know there's something not right, as do you!
    This announcement was an opportunity for FI to really put it's marker down.
    Traders wanted positivity!
    Underwhelming seems to be the general consensus.
    I'm not after 70/80 % ROI, those days are gone.
    Obviously, that would be nice. 😁
    Equally, I don't want to see 20% profit on paper, when I know I'm probably 10% down when it comes to actually selling.
    FI seems to have lost its direction.
    I hope they find it very soon as I still have decent money in here.



  • I've always been diverse, so held a few decent keepers and got the rises.

    What I'm saying is the swing harms the premium players value. Why hold small amounts of premium when you can hold large amounts of gks far cheaper? Think the Totm helps a few premiums, but it is only 12 x per Yr.

    E. G.
    100 Trent = Β£1024 which could buy you 1678 Sommers (both good pb data for position)
    100 x 10p div win = Β£10
    1678 x 3p div win = Β£50
    Thats a gold day where the gap is at its biggest between def and gk payouts...



  • @Dronny-Gaz I'm not trying to calm traders down - I'm calling the mugs who were saying 100% increase & plowing into the top end regardless with some not even being divided earners.

    That was reckless & should be lesson learned for some.

    I'm quite happy with 25-50% next year. I'm patient & not too greedy.

    Meanwhile, you are affiliated with the FS clan & have other motives.



  • @Dronny-Gaz said in Can someone official please get us an explanation?:

    @Ericali
    Say what you want to try and calm traders edginess.
    I know there's something not right, as do you!
    This announcement was an opportunity for FI to really put it's marker down.
    Traders wanted positivity!
    Underwhelming seems to be the general consensus.
    I'm not after 70/80 % ROI, those days are gone.
    Obviously, that would be nice. 😁
    Equally, I don't want to see 20% profit on paper, when I know I'm probably 10% down when it comes to actually selling.
    FI seems to have lost its direction.
    I hope they find it very soon as I still have decent money in here.

    So, on 21st of the month you can now potentially buy 11 players who are all miles ahead in the TOTM rankings and earn FIFTY ONE PENCE in dividends. You don't have to sell and rebuy for the next month, they are yours to keep and will qualify for TOTM for the next three years!

    total game changer FOR THE BETTER, whilst still offering decent PB and Mb divs

    How can anyone have an issue here??


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