Well done FI, you just destroyed a good product



  • Until they couldn't help themselves by meddling (yet) again, this was a good product, but everything still keeps falling and spreads have not tightened that much (average spread must be in excess of 10%), so I think it's time to sell up before the last man turns the lights out.

    What a shame, but good luck to those who choose to remain.



  • @Advinculas-Index can you drop a screenshot in here with the data you have showing average spreads? Based on this thread, I think it'll be good to see some actual data to support/disprove the OP claim of 'in excess of 10%'



  • See you later.



  • Breaking News:

    Special member posts own special thread to further exacerbate the atmosphere he doesn't enjoy.



  • @Highfields96 I’ve just been through the spreads for my port on index price alerts and currently the average spread over my 63 players is 10.21%. I have 3 players under 5% and 17 over 15%. The spreads are now bigger on average in my port than they were before the order book launch. It’s awful. A shambles.



  • @Highfields96 Screenshot 2020-09-13 at 22.21.52.png

    CBA to do anymore someone posts a screenshot of an exel that does it on here...



  • It is the figure in bold that is the spread percentage and in the case of Haaland it is 5.416, which is high but not too bad, but look at Pogba onwards. Horrific especially when we were told that they would tighten.

    Erling Braut Haland -0.13% 0.38% 0.13% 0% -0.13% -0.63% -1.49% 1.79% £7.94 £7.51 5.416% 7
    Gabriel Magalhaes 0% 0% -0.74% -3.6% -4.96% -25.56% 9.84% 7.2% £1.34 £1.25 6.716% 235
    Rúben Neves 0% 0% 0% 0% -0.56% -2.22% 2.33% -3.3% £1.76 £1.64 6.818% 141
    Anthony Martial 0% -0.68% -0.68% -0.68% -0.68% -0.34% -2.02% -3.96% £2.91 £2.71 6.873% 45
    Adil Aouchiche 0% -0.73% -2.15% -3.19% -3.53% -5.21% -6.19% -1.8% £2.73 £2.53 7.326% 53
    Bruno Fernandes 0.11% 0% -0.32% -0.43% -0.22% -0.54% -4.34% -9.93% £9.25 £8.57 7.351% 5
    Marcus Rashford -0.16% -0.65% -0.48% -0.65% -0.65% -0.65% -4.35% -18.52% £6.16 £5.69 7.63% 9
    Allan Saint Maximin 0% -0.52% -1.03% -2.03% -3.98% -13.84% -7.66% -20.9% £1.93 £1.78 7.772% 111
    Kingsley Coman 0% 0% 0.59% 0.59% 0.59% -0.58% -8.06% -21.56% £1.71 £1.57 8.187% 153
    Harry Kane -0.18% -0.18% -0.18% -0.9% -8.65% -7.58% -8.96% -13.95% £5.49 £5.01 8.743% 15
    Mason Greenwood -0.12% -0.48% -0.48% -0.48% -1.66% -4.17% -7.69% -13.21% £8.28 £7.54 8.937% 6
    Harry Maguire 0.61% 0.61% 0.61% 0.61% 0.61% 0.61% -10.75% -12.63% £1.66 £1.51 9.036% 164
    Tahith Chong 0% 0.78% 0.78% 2.38% 1.57% 0% 1.57% 3.2% £1.29 £1.17 9.302% 253
    Rayan Cherki 0% 0% 0.17% 0.17% -0.85% -2.68% -6.88% -1.69% £5.82 £5.27 9.45% 13
    Paul Pogba -0.4% -2.38% -2.96% -6.29% -5.93% -6.99% -11.19% -27.96% £4.92 £4.4 10.569% 19
    Eduardo Camavinga -1.19% -1.19% -1.19% -3.04% -3.94% -6.97% -5.26% 2.48% £4.14 £3.67 11.353% 23
    Joao Felix 0% 0% -0.83% -1.37% -1.64% -2.44% -2.44% -2.17% £3.6 £3.18 11.667% 29
    Musa Barrow -2.22% -2.22% -2.22% -3.08% -3.08% -2.65% -4.35% -1.79% £2.2 £1.94 11.818% 80
    Benoit Badiashile 0% 0% 0% -0.76% 0% 2.36% -4.41% -13.33% £1.3 £1.14 12.308% 248
    Dayotchanculle Upamecano 0% 0% 0.47% 0% 0% 0% 2.87% -4.44% £2.15 £1.88 12.558% 86
    Jude Bellingham -0.21% 0.21% -0.42% -1.25% -1.66% -3.27% -3.27% -1.46% £4.73 £4.12 12.896% 20
    Diogo Jota 0.6% 0.6% 0.6% -4% -4% -2.89% -9.19% -28.51% £1.68 £1.46 13.095% 160
    Donny Van De Beek 0% 0% -0.34% -0.68% -1.68% -0.34% 1.74% -13.61% £2.92 £2.53 13.356% 43
    Federico Chiesa 0% 0% -0.47% -0.94% -0.47% -1.87% -4.11% -9.48% £2.1 £1.81 13.81% 91
    Jack Grealish 0% -0.56% 1.14% -3.54% -4.07% -5.35% -11.28% -30.04% £3.54 £3.05 13.842% 32
    Nathan Aké 0% 0% 0% -0.92% -0.92% -4.42% -8.47% -22.3% £1.08 £0.93 13.889% 345
    Saúl Ñíguez 0% 1.09% 1.09% 1.09% 1.09% 1.09% -7.92% -29.01% £0.93 £0.8 13.978% 434
    Joao Filipe 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% -5.15% -8.91% -17.86% £0.92 £0.79 14.13% 440
    Kai Havertz 0% 0% -0.65% -1.78% -0.82% -8.02% 1.33% -1.62% £6.08 £5.17 14.967% 10
    Lautaro Martinez -1.41% -1.41% -2.45% -2.79% -3.79% -3.79% -3.46% -17.46% £2.79 £2.36 15.412% 49
    Sergio Reguilon -2.54% -3.03% -4.48% -5.88% -4.48% -5.42% -9% -8.57% £1.92 £1.62 15.625% 114
    Abel Ruiz 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% -3.8% -12.64% -23.23% £0.76 £0.64 15.789% 591
    Denis Zakaria 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 1.08% -3.09% -22.95% £0.94 £0.79 15.957% 422
    Takefusa Kubo -0.37% -0.37% -0.37% -0.73% -2.16% -2.16% -3.89% -3.2% £2.72 £2.26 16.912% 54
    Aaron Wan Bissaka 0% 0% 0% 0% 0.66% -1.92% 11.68% -15% £1.53 £1.27 16.993% 193
    Nicolo Zaniolo -1.58% -1.58% -2.6% -2.6% -3.61% -3.61% -7.88% -40.26% £1.87 £1.55 17.112% 124
    Raúl Jiménez 0% 0.6% -0.6% 1.83% 2.45% 3.09% 7.74% -13.92% £1.67 £1.38 17.365% 163
    Odion Ighalo -2.5% -4.88% -7.14% -7.14% -13.33% -20.41% -9.3% -69.77% £0.39 £0.32 17.949% 1402
    Dean Henderson 0% 0% 0% 0.77% 0.77% -2.24% -5.76% -10.88% £1.31 £1.07 18.321% 245
    James Garner 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% -8.4% -22.08% £1.2 £0.97 19.167% 290
    Brandon Williams 0% 0% -0.56% 0% -0.56% -3.3% 7.32% -11.56% £1.76 £1.42 19.318% 141
    Luke Shaw 0% 0% -2.38% -2.38% -3.53% -5.75% 5.13% -15.46% £0.82 £0.66 19.512% 511
    David De Gea 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% -2.41% 1.25% -4.71% £0.81 £0.65 19.753% 527
    Eberechi Eze 0.48% 0.48% 0% -0.95% -0.95% -2.8% -2.35% -10.34% £2.08 £1.65 20.673% 94
    Daniel James 0% 0% 0% 1.54% 1.54% -10.2% 1.54% -21.89% £1.32 £1.04 21.212% 243
    Leon Bailey 0% 0% -1.85% 6.71% 11.97% 12.77% 3.92% -17.19% £1.59 £1.25 21.384% 182
    Scott Mctominay 0% 0% -2.02% -2.02% -3% -3.96% -17.8% -27.61% £0.97 £0.76 21.649% 404
    Angel Gomes 0% 0% 0% 0% -2.04% -1.37% -5.26% -21.31% £1.44 £1.11 22.917% 216
    Boubakary Soumare 0% -0.71% 0% 1.46% 1.46% 11.2% -4.14% -19.65% £1.39 £1.07 23.022% 226
    Aaron Connolly 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0.64% 0% 0% £1.57 £1.2 23.567% 184
    Mohammed Salisu 0% 0% -1.12% -1.12% -1.12% -1.12% -7.37% -5.38% £0.88 £0.65 26.136% 466
    Pierluigi Gollini 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% -2.53% -4.94% £0.77 £0.56 27.273% 574
    Thomas Partey 0% 0% 0% 0.95% 0% 0.95% -2.75% -15.2% £1.06 £0.77 27.358% 357
    Florentino Luis 0% 0% -0.67% -0.67% -0.67% -1.33% -1.99% -2.63% £1.48 £1.07 27.703% 200
    Dylan Levitt 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0.78% 0.78% £1.3 £0.85 34.615% 248
    Gerson 0% 0% 0% 2.22% -6.12% -14.81% -34.29% -53.06% £0.46 £0.3 34.783% 1172
    Rafael Toloi 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% -6.25% -6.25% £0.3 £0.17 43.333% 1832
    Toni Lato 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% £0.38 £0.19 50% 1438
    Rabbi Matondo 0% 0% 0% 0% -1.9% -2.83% -8.85% -25.36% £1.03 £0 100% 365
    Thiago Almada 0% -1.01% -1.01% -1.5% -1.99% -2.48% -1.01% -27.04% £1.97 £0 100% 104



  • I’m not going to lie I am worried, I’m a long term trader from 2018 and I’m bleeding...if I lose much more I’ll be selling up to get out on even money which is unbelievable considering the “profit” I had made



  • @Slimjim60 good luck mate. Dont think they have ruined a good product at all but it may not be everyones cup of tea. Shame so many are casting judgement after 3 days instead of taking time to understand it and realise that the only reasons prices are dropping is because people are throwing away money by listing low offers and the current trend is everyone chasing huge IPDs. Those IPDS are creating more volatility than anything else



  • @Black-Wolf it’s not volatility. It’s 90% down.



  • It's a bit of a mess at the moment. Almost funny being someone with a very small port. I think all the dividends have made everyone go crazy. If you sit tight you'll be fine- dividends have been doubled, not much more to say than that.



  • I'm someone who has been optimistic (mainly because I'm still quite new and have only lost 100 quid or so of money that was already profit) but today has been a bit of a shitshow for me.

    On a day that Schmeicel, Mandanda and Thauvin all get me dividends and I should be happy...I've seen two of my biggest holds absolutely tank.

    I also sold Di Maria at 1.9 and bought back for 1.45 anticipating he might have a bad game.

    And my reward is seeing my port drop massively. I have been posting tonight that we need to see the positives and make the most of the opportunities but some of the drops today have even shocked me. I'm still trying to remain positive.



  • Many people are saying hold tight and it will change’ it’s a 3 year bet. I’ll be lucky to have any money left in my port in 3 weeks never mind 3 years. So frustrated and don’t know what to do. 50/50 decision.



  • @Richio
    It’s people pulling money out of holds to free up cash for ipd trading ... problem is that as prices fall on top end others are panicking and they following the race downwards with these holds undercutting to get out fast. Lots of holds are not having issues but I accept a bad look at moment when you see top prices in free fall.
    Cash is king now to take advantage in play till promotion ends



  • @Richio I'm not here to say anyone is right/wrong. I want to judge the market as a whole - not just some peoples holds. I'm looking at mine and theres some out of favour players with large spreads but my portfolio is pretty stacked for PL/Ligue 1 so would expect as these leagues are up and running.



  • @Richio it only takes 300 shares to drop a players price to whatever someone wants within a spread. That doesnt represent a drop to your portfolio or anyone elses all it represents is that someone has put in a low sell order meaning prices can recover in an instant just like they dropped



  • Dear god people selling Pogba at £4.40 and Kane at £4.76! Are people effing stupid?!



  • @Toptom Think its @Advinculas-Index hence the reason for the tag



  • @Marksandygill said in Well done FI, you just destroyed a good product:

    Dear god people selling Pogba at £4.40 and Kane at £4.76! Are people effing stupid?!

    This highlights my biggest problem right now. I NEED MORE MONEY TO MATCH THESE OFFERS!!!!!



  • @Marksandygill I;m heading for another deposit at this rate


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