Marcus Rashford

  • @PB-man really lol why cos he's at man United? He's goals are 1 in 4 and assists 1 in 5 so say what you like mate lol he's been in prem for 4 years aubamayang has been here 18 months and already has more goals

  • @Jad1982 said in Marcus Rashford:

    @PB-man really lol why cos he's at man United? He's goals are 1 in 4 and assists 1 in 5 so say what you like mate lol he's been in prem for 4 years aubamayang has been here 18 months and already has more goals

    You are seriously ignoring the age difference.

    Aubameyangs season as a 21 year old - 4 goals in 37 appearances in Ligue 1

    career total at 21 - 16 goals in 100 games (8 of those in Frances second division)

  • @Chris-J Most of Englands top players have taken a bit of a pounding of late mainly due to NL.

    I along with many hold Rashford, Kane, Sancho and Sterling but you can bet your bottom dollar 8 weeks from now these players are all going to be on the gainers list.

    By start of next season Rashfords injury hit end of last season should be behind him.

  • @Chris-J that is a fair point you make about age diff, but 1 was at a shite French league 1 club and was worth a pittance and the other is at the biggest team in the world valued at God knows how much, it might take rashford another 3 or 4 seasons or more, to fully mature as a striker, you might be happy to wait that long but watching the comments on United stand I'm not so sure their fans will

  • Very difficult to compare given style, ages etc but in Rashford's first 4 seasons he played 111 games in the premier league, one of the hardest/most challenging leagues in the world, Kane's first 4 seasons saw him score 14 in 40 games, however only 14 of those games were in the premier and he scored 3 goals, the rest were league one and championship.

    So Kane 3 in 14 = goal every 4.67 games
    Rashford 27 in 111 = goal every 4.11 games

    I get that Kane is a better finisher, but even Super Alan Shearer had a shocking record after his first 4 professional seasons (played 77 scored 10 = goal every 7.7 games).

    He can improve finishing, and helps if he is played as a striker and not as a wide attacker

  • I hold 500 of him at the moment and he's currently in the green by 15p. He'll stay in the news regarding his future and is the main man for club and country; so I'll expect him to continue rising towards the new season.

  • @Jad1982 players get better fairly rapidly as they approach their prime. These are the exact same criticisms Sterling had after he scored 2, 9, 7, 6, 7 in his first five prem seasons.

    Since turning 23 he’s scored 18 and 17 in his past two and is generally considered to be top class. Short memories on some people.

  • @PB-man Whenever the united fanbase get on rashfords back i use sterling as the case example too. he was dreadful in his first season at city. Some of the abuse and criticism Rashford gets within the fan base is pretty horrific. Ronaldos decision making was pretty dreadful at 20-21 too.

    People are too quick to forget how Rashford:-

    ruined trent the season b4 last.

    put Demichellis on his arse in the manc derby a couple of years back

    scored free kick in europa semi

    scored crucial last minute penalty vs psg

    scored in the nations league semi

    did more in 3 minutes than the rest of the england team did in 90 combined in the abysmal defeat to iceland

    scored on multiple debuts in multiple competitions for england and utd.

    Scored against all the other big 5 teams in england.

    Big games, big player. But you will often hear 'he's not good enough'

    His decision making is poor granted but if he can start to play with his head up a bit more he is going to become a very, very good player.

    You are right people have short memories. Hes 21.

  • @PB-man Stirling is not a striker, and just because he got a lot better that doesn't mean rashford will, Stirling has had pep to learn from the last 3 years, rashford has had mourinho, van gaal and now ole, 3 different styles and if ole is gone before the end of next season, which is very possible then what ? He's young and raw still, but could be a top class winger, but never a striker

  • @Jad1982 Whats sterlings goalscoring record vs the big 5 look like? Rashford has scored against them all (some multiple times) at 21 in a shit united team for the most part. That suggests he has more of a strikers instinct and big game temperament than sterling but you want to turn him into another sterling? And yes agreed he may never reach sterlings level, then again he may exceed it. Nobody knew what ronaldo was going to become at 21. Young players in this country need a bit of time to breath.

    id argue rashfords 3 best attributes are raw pace, the runs he makes off the ball and being the first man to engage the press.

    If you take the last 3 months of last season out of the equation (he was clearly carrying an injury from liverpool onwards). his best continuous periods of form in a united shirt came in van gaals last 3 months and oles first 3 months. Both of those periods he has been the man up top.

    Multiple games, lots of goals, lots of impact on football matches in those periods. Apart from twisting up trent can you name me any sustained periods where hes played wide where he has been more effective than in those 2 separate 3 month periods? Seen plenty of evidence he could be good up top. Seen virtually 0 evidence apart from liverpool home game he might be anywhere near as effective out wide. Maybe that too might have been a Mourinho issue.

    Maybe you are right, i just dont see the evidence for it. The evidence suggests otherwise.

  • @dionysusthyrsus we'll have to agree to disagree, because while i think he was rushed back from injury, he did play the last 3 month's of the season, ahead of martial and lukaku, so ole must have felt he was fit enough to play, and if that's the case that he wasn't fit, then I feel for the lad, and its a sign of things to come under a manager that's sticking it all on him at 21. I like him a lot, but not as a striker, maybe in time but not anytime soon

  • For 21s and under he was joint 6th in the world for gna*
    in a shit team for majority of year
    and struggled with injury towards the backend of the season after the liverpool game
    Think he did pretty well
    Needs to work on freekicks tho mygod they are shite

    *If someone were to calculate importance to team percentage wise of goals + assists Rashford would likely be top4

  • @NewUser292125
    now we play the waiting game

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