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    • CL and EL entrants from top 5 leagues

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      For those who might find this useful.

      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • Last Seasons Most Prolific Defenders

      Following on the recent Podcast with @The-FIG I've researched the best goal scoring defenders from last season and posted them on google docs below.

      Please note - this excludes players with less than 5 appearances and only includes their league games, excluding the CL, EL and WC (Yerry Mina is a prime example of course).

      I've randomly included a few names from the Championship, Liga Nos and Eredivisie - ones that I've seen articles on, recently transferred and promoted players.

      The sample is only taken over one season and not the more helpful historical data so it's highly likely some may have just had a hot streak.

      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kc7_GhseWb1xXjxL2Y0W1gTgl-DwHGy884wZ7WIj9t4/edit?usp=sharing

      Disclaimer : Yes I own a fair few of these but there''s way too many to buy them all and will avoid stating which so to avoid a PnD accusation or two :-)

      Hope this helps and please remember I'm not a data provider like @Noirx4 or Index Edge so it is what it is and won't be worked on for improvement :-)

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      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • Tuesday 11th June - IPO's worth writing about

      Been a bit quiet recently but it's hard to find the motivation to do a write up when faced with a herd full of players that are never going to grace the top 5 leagues. Can't blame FI for that as they've stuck to their promise of getting all WC players onto the Index and in the process I'm sure masses of you have an unknown lurking if your PF's ready to hopefully rocket!!

      So on to tomorrow; where we see an influx of talent coming in.

      First up on the list is a youngster getting rave reviews at Liverpool called Curtis Jones, "the next Stevie G" tag is being touted about and from what I can see from limited information he could be Index gold being a goalscoring all action midfielder. I think there will be enough Liverpool fans on the Index to ensure 40p will no doubt double and maybe more tomorrow morning.

      West Ham have finally seen sense and got rid of Schmoyes and his whacky Evra investments and have turned to Spurs old boy Ryan Fredericks, a pacy fullback coming in at 50p. It's a little high to get excited about but Declan Rice's price of 76p should be a decent gauge.

      Ignoring the keeper we then have Kevin Long from Burnley, the Europa League and their hardened defence is something not to be ignored, he does have an eye for goal so based on that I'd suggest benchmarking him above 70p mark of Ben Mee.

      Next up is Sorloth the new Striker at Palace, with Benteke's exclusion from Belgium's WC squad and what appears to be a slowly diminishing career can Sorloth steal his Thunder. Not sure on this guy really, he seemed very willing when he played against us near the end of the season but didn't show that much quality imo.

      That brings us up to the Lunchtime batch and hold on to your seatbelts as we have Rodrygo coming on at 80p, seems a pretty steep starting price BUT if you look at Vinicius Junior's price of £2.39 it show's that traders are dying to get their hands on the next Neymar. I expect a frenzy on him tomorrow.

      Arsenal's new 6ft 4 defender, Mavropanos at 60p first of all appears quite high but he earned rave reviews vs Utd and if Emery like's the look of him that will most certainly rise in due course. Eevn Chambers is 70p and Mavropanos has hit 3 goals in 16 games for his previous side albeit at a much lower standard.

      I'm sadly old enough to remember George Weah in his pomp and if his US international son is even half the player he was, then 50p will be a steal. He started a game for PSG at the end of last season and I'm not sure who their cheapest attacking force is but I'm confident it's much higher than 50p, expecting a huge rocket here.

      If Diego Dalot IPO'd a few weeks ago I dare say he'd limp in at 20p with no buyers, roll on a few weeks and up steps Mourinho heaping praise on their new purchase. It's hard to gauge his value on such limited data but early indications suggest he could amongst the goals, especially if Utd start playing more attacking football. I suspected he might IPO about 60p and suspect he'll settle around the 80 to 90p mark.

      Ante Coric has been labelled as better than Modric and Kovacic at the equivalent time in their career's, don't know a great deal about him and given that he didn't make the Croatian WC Squad I'm surprised his IPO price is as high as 70p, however he's got a Wonderkid tag so we'll probably see him rise.

      Fulham being interested in Southampton's Matt Targett isn't enough to wow me coming in at 50p although he can play further up the pitch which could be a positive.

      One stark warning to people chasing the next big thing could be in the shape of Martin Odegaard, remember him? He's not long broken a metatarsal and hasn't looked close to breaking through at Real so a bit of a strange IPO really.

      For 10p less you could pick up Sergio Gomez, stolen from Barca he's now being nurtured at Dortmund in a similar way to our own Jadon Sancho. High hopes on this guy but you won't see him in action til 2019 I believe.

      If you're after someone for this season coming rather than next then Lebo Mothiba could be more appealing, finished the season well with Lille and could be a force for them come August/September, 60p seems a bit pricey though.

      Finally we have Matheus Fernandes, a 19 yr old playing for Botafogo, someone's clearly requested this guy but 1 goal in 52 games for Botafogo isn't going to make waves in the world of FI for me, especially at 50p.

      Enjoy the chaos tomorrow all! It's gonna be a wild ride!

      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • Share Split Winners?

      Unless you've been sleeping under a rock for the past 2 or 3 months you know full well there's another SS on the horizon, but who are the most likely to benefit from this?

      Mathematically it "should" be business as usual HOWEVER the truth is the current dividend structure simply doesn't lend itself to a neat division whatever number you use, unless you're happy to mess around with decimals which in my opinion looks shoddy.

      In turn, the big AC has stated that they will be as generous as they can be when re-evaluating the new payout structure, so we know for certain (well 99%) that there will be changes and the number of maintenance windows being used would back that up.

      So, if you believe anything you read you'll probably be as convinced as I am that a War Chest is being held back to react to the new dividends when they are announced on Monday the 18th March. It's important to note, if you're new to the platform, that announcements move the market even if the implementation is days or weeks away.

      Which means that (unless every dividend category is increased by the same %, which is highly unlikely) there will be certain types of players that will rocket when the Market is reopened (I think I've read 2 hours after the announcement - but I might have dreamt that one!).

      So the question is who and why!

      To answer this you should try and put yourself in FI's shoes, without bragging I managed to do this during the last announcement and made 8k from second guessing that FI would introduce some value to Goalkeepers, which turned out to be the Clean Sheet Dividend.

      So what do FI really want? If we take the Spread out of the conversation for a moment, we're left with their lifeblood - 2% commission (along with Happy Customers, which most of us are with such a brilliant concept!). In this sense nothing makes them (and us if we get it right) more money than mass volatility. "Will he, won't he" transfer news and injuries are a great source of this but the new mechanism of in-play dividends (IPD) stimulates trading rather than sitting on a hold for 3 years waiting for the divs to drip in so my guess would be that; FI, without detriment to their core principles of PB and MB, will encourage more trading in this area than any other.

      Now take into consideration the amount of money invested in Media Cash Cow's like Pogba and Neymar, making changes that would significantly weaken the value of the top players would no doubt cause uproar with traders who have majorly invested in them based on existing dividends, so I firmly believe that FI will also increase the dividends available in this area too but not quite as much.

      The water here get's slightly mirky if you read into Mike Bohan's tweet asking whether Media should be opened up to the Squad! Plus, during testing there seems to be a suggestion that Media may also become tiered during Match Days too. Put simply, Pogba would theoretically be worth even more as it's highly likely that he'd make the top 3 on a ridiculous basis.

      Where does this leave PB?, my favourite mechanic on the platform (and I'm sure for many others too). Well it can't be neglected that's for sure as it would alienate a huge chunk of their customer base so I suspect they have plans to improve this area here too.

      Reading the above probably suggests that "everyone's a winner" and we all know there must be losers as reserved war chests will not be the only source of investment. A huge amount of money will also be moved from one type to another, we're not all millionaires with spare cash to burn.

      After writing all of the above I won't finish off without making my own predictions and I'm being honest in saying I haven't loaded up on certain players prior to writing this (certainly not 10k splashed on keepers like last time.)

      I think the losers will be the youth and that doesn't actually mean they'll crash, just that I don't think they'll benefit from a rise driven by the announcement (unless FI do something right outside of the box).

      The big winners? in the main I think it'll be very spread out BUT I think that the area that made me a fortune last time could strike twice. We saw that Alisson, when in the top 200, was a media whore, the huge transfer fee helped but GK heroics certainly grab headlines. So IF IF IF they do open it up to the Squad then I think some well known keepers could be really valuable. If they increase the CS payments as part of the IPD then we could see them getting even more value.

      That's my 2 pence, I'm not loaded up on them like before and just an opinion. It's gonna be a very interesting day regardless!

      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • Wednesday IPO Preview - Trump and Kim make up!

      Morning All,

      Today's IPO's run over 2 slots, 10-12 and 12-14 which I'm sure pleases everyone.

      I'll make it brief as they're only 45 mins away.

      Youssef En-Nesyri
      Relegated with Malaga last season which isn't always a bad thing if they're a star player. I don't see much value compared to the likes of El Kaabi (yeah I know I rave about him but hey).

      Han Kwang Song
      The one and only North Korean superstar, PB eligible with Cagliari and ripped it up with Perugia on loan last season. Reports suggest he's nailed on for Juve as Spurs, Liverpool and Arsenal "were" put off by the political tension. However now that Trumpy boy and Slim Kim have kissed and made up could that potentially open the door to pastures new. I expect a flyer here.

      Josh Sargent
      PB eligible with Werder Bremen and the Yanks have big hopes with this guy along with Timothy Weah. Only 18 with great work ethic and an eye for goal. Once again 50p a snip, I don't expect him to reach Weah heights due to Bremen not being PSG nor having an Ancestral DemiGod but he should hit the 80p-1.00 mark

      Rick Karsdorp
      At Roma but a Dutch defender this side of the WC who doesn't bag many goals isn't somone I'd be desperate to buy, especially being released at the same time as the others.

      Lucas Piazon
      Another one of Chelsea's multi-loan kids who's now actually 24. He could well stay with promoted Fulham this year which is a 50/50 result depending on which way you look at it. Either way, Brazilian waiting to blossom with a decent rep will ensure he gets snapped up but wouldn't like to say how high.

      Djibril Sow
      Promising youngster, didn't make the Swiss WC squad but was linked to Arsenal last month. Another steady riser for me - 70p-ish at a guess.

      Nicolas Gonzalez
      Young Argentine striker wanted by Inter, we've seen a few like this recently and all tend to launch like Buzz Lightyear.

      Gabriel Barbosa
      Gabigol, the next big thing, well he was when purchased for mega money 2 years ago. Still registered with Inter but didn't quite fire at first attempt but has been playing well again since and determined to make his mark. Not sure if it's the Batigol inspired nickname or the "new Neymar" tag but for some reason he sends out subliminal messages of "buy me now". Although I'm not convinced by him; we saw yesterday with Odegaard that it doesn't really matter if you haven't come good yet as long as the potential is still there.

      Lucas Paqueta
      This boy is today's big shout, everything about him screams Index Gold, goalscoring midfielder with imminent links to City and the other Euro Giants. Get on board if you can.

      Marco van Ginkel
      PSV have seen this boy evolve into a real player this year, you'd imagine Chelsea would give him a crack after the season he's had but we all know they won't. They want 10m for him which I don't think is too bad in this day and age but the Dutch clubs aren't rolling in cash so I suspect he'll end up at a richer PB eligible club in the near future. His stats are made for FI and it'll be interesting to see how the market perceives him today.

      This Preview is not intended to make the purchasing of IPO's any easier, simply to guide people on the players background and potential value. Please refrain from moaning on this thread if you can't get them at the prices you want

      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • Friday 24th August - IPO Preview

      IPO's are back with a bang tomorrow folks.

      First of all forgive me for ignoring both keepers as I'm firmly of the opinion that they're more or less worthless outside of the top 200.

      We have a mixed back of breakthrough stars and young potential so will take them in turn.

      Colin Dagba - Played LB for PSG in their last 2 games, "probably" just keeping that place warm for Felipe Luis or A N Other but it's so early in Tuchel's reign that we don't know that for certain. I can't see any evidence of a goal threat BUT he's only 70p so I expect him to attract some attention, even though I don't think he's a Prime PB contender.

      Matteo Guendouzi - Seen a lot of traders asking for this guy to be IPO'd but I think they'll be bitterly disappointed at the starting price of £1.20. I don't see any evidence of multiple goals in a season so in my opinion shouldn't be worth more than Henderson or Matic who play similar roles at currently higher profile clubs. There's been enough interest that he'll probably rise but I wouldn't recommend buying him myself.

      Odsonne Edouard - Now here we could have a real baller on our hands. You can't argue that Brendan Rodgers has had some world class strikers under his stewardship and he rates this kid massively. His goal record is eye watering and if he lights up the Scottish or Europa League we could see a big money move as soon as January or next summer. I suspect he may well double in value tomorrow.

      Ryan Gauld - Trying to break into Lisbon's first team at the moment and I can't see any sign of him being a World Beater although could be wrong. Maybe one for the most speculative of youth hunters.

      Aaron Wan-Bissaka - The IPO timing for this kid is spot on, like Guendouzi I can't see much of a goal threat but the available stats are limited. We've seen Full-backs go through the roof over the past week or so and although I think £1 is a high IPO I wouldn't be surprised if the hype creates a lot of trading in him.

      Alphonso Davies - The hype continues but with the added bonus that Bayern have bought this Canadian wonderkid and he's joining them in January. With limited data I decided to watch a quick video and wasn't blown away with what I saw but he did show glimpses of flamboyance and speed. I'd have liked to seen him IPO at 70-80p but he'll still probably race away. Hard to say for sure as we're dealing with a different trader market these days.

      Emile Smith-Rowe - I had to take my Spurs blinkers off on this and I think Arsenal could well have a decent player on their hands here, once again limited data but he's quite prolific from midfield from what I can see and I'd have rather have him in my PF than Wan-Bissaka or Guendouzi who are 20p more.

      Aleix Garcia - Couldn't see anything with this City loanee that makes me think I need to get in on his early.

      David Hancko - This young CB is VERY interesting, time will tell on how much time he gets with Fiorentina but his goal record is an impressive 14 goals in 80 which cannot be ignored. There's a few goalscoring defenders that I feel are incredible value around the 70-90p range which I feel should be at least around the £1.50 mark and make 70p a great IPO price but until that transpires this kid might be better in your watch list until he nails down a place.

      Keanan Bennetts - Putting my Spurs blinkers back on, a lot of our fans were NOT happy with this kid leaving us, he speaks well and is Bi-Lingual so should fit in straight away over in Germany, read a bundesliga report where they think they've picked up the next Gareth Bale due to his speed and power. He has a great goal record and although it might take him some time to establish himself I think they've got a great youngster on their hands. Compared to some youngsters he could be FI Gold within the next 12 months and 70p could represent great value.

      Michael Cuisance - 10p more than Keanan but I couldn't really find any tangible reason why that would be the case - happy for people ITK to correct me on him??

      Musa Barrow - Atalanta have some very creative talent in their support roles and now they appear to have a player who knows how to finish their chances, add this to their Europa League participation providing they progress and I think we have tomorrow's shining light. Seen a lot of requests for this guy to IPO and there's good money to be made if you can get in early enough.

      Please note that the above review is aimed at giving an insight as to what value each player may offer in the short or long term. IPO's are notoriously difficult to buy at the cheapest prices especially when in high demand by thousands of traders so please refrain from moaning on this thread if you are unable to see the players at the cheapest prices.

      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • Each Country's Star PB Player and Dark Horse

      We seem to have a thread for every Squad on the system so thought it might be good to have one where just Star PB Men and Dark Horses are suggested for quick reference. It'll be interesting to spot any common unknown names cropping up. (please excuse the formatting and I know some aren't that obscure!)

      Group A
      Egypt Salah, Trezeguet
      Russia Smolov, Golovin
      Saudi Arabia Al-Sahlawi, Al-Muwallad
      Uruguay Torreira, Nandez

      Group B
      Iran Jahanbaksh, Azmoun
      Morocco Harit, El Kaabi
      Portugal Bruno Fernandez, Ruben Dias
      Spain Alcantara, Odriozola

      Group C
      Australia Leckie, Arzani
      France Griezmann, Sidibe
      Peru Guerrero, Cueva
      Denmark Eriksen, Dolberg

      Group D
      Argentina Messi, Pavon
      Iceland Sigurdsson, Gudmundsson
      Croatia Rakitic, Bradaric
      Nigeria Obi Mikel, Etebo

      Group E
      Brazil Neymar, Jesus
      Switzerland Shaqiri, Embolo
      Costa Rica Borges, Campbell
      Serbia Kolarov, Milinkovic-Savic

      Group F
      Germany Kroos, Plattenhardt
      Mexico Lozano, Fabian
      Sweden Forsberg, Hiljemark
      South Korea Son, Hee-Chan

      Group G
      Belgium Hazard, Meunier
      England Trippier, Loftus-Cheek
      Tunisia Khazri, Skhiri
      Panama R Torres, Diaz

      Group H
      Poland Zielinski, Milik
      Senegal Mane, Mbodji
      Colombia James, Uribe
      Japan Honda, Osako

      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • RE: IPO Preview - Monday 14th May - Surprising Contenders

      @ocs123 How can that be disingenuous when "a lot" is completely subjective?

      I'm not going to argue with you as it's obviously a sore subject for you but the amount of people that signed up 2 days ago and whinge about IPO's, like they should have a god given right to be at the front of the queue when the shop opens is quite frankly annoying.

      Whether I write this reviews or not the IPO's are NOT in any shape or form going to appear and rise slowly for people to cherry pick the best prices, the amount of complaining makes me feel like saying "do you know what, don't read the thread or do you're own ****** research"

      Rant over!

      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • RE: Each Country's Star PB Player and Dark Horse

      @NewUser61465 this is no different to a journalist doing a quick write up on each team and is completely subjective.

      If you spend enough time on Twitter and to a lesser extent the forum, you'll soon get tired of people eulogising over one of their holds because they're desperate for others to buy and then jump off the train with a little bit of cash.

      For me personally I do okay in life and it's not all about personal gain, I'm certainly not a hippy but if I can help someone else make a bit of money by offering some free help then what's the issue.

      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • Wed - Fri, IPO Review/Preview

      Morning all,

      For those of you who research your own players you probably came across the same issues as me when it comes to Ligue 2 teams and their players. WHAT A CHORE!

      The 2 Division in Germany seems a smidgen easier because at least some websites preview their promoted teams for the season ahead.

      So given the above, I couldn't really see the point in writing anything in depth surrounding Reims or Nimes despite their promising start to the season, although I did come across a few things.

      Reims sold their most promising young goal machine, in Theoson-Jordan Siebatcheu, to Rennes (so let's have him IPO'd please FI @FI_Alex ). It's a great move for Rennes based on their top scorer only bagging 5 goals last season so they're desperate for a striker.

      They do possess a Goal Scoring defender in Yunis Abdelhamid who hasn't risen much so there's potentially a post-IPO bargain available there although his goals need to match up with wins, GWG and Clean Sheets of course.

      Nimes had the top scoring striker last year in promising French-Turk youngster Umut Bozok, he didn't burst out at IPO but did see a postponed rise later in the day. The market appeared to opt for the higher priced Thioub and Ripart who scored goals in the first 3 games, which in my opinion could be a little short sighted although time will tell.

      If I was to pick any of their players other than Bozok I'd actually opt for Teji Savanier, scores goals and appears to be their go to man on set-pieces.

      Now onto Fortuna Dusseldorf today. Ironically they have Germany's 2nd Divsion Equivalent to Umut Bozok in Marvin Ducksch, he topped the charts (for St Pauli) last season and I think they're both 22. So coming on at 60p "should" see him settle around the 84p mark (famous last words). FD's defender's like to get on the ball from the number of passes they strung together vs Augsburg even though they lost.

      They've actually lost their star man from last year, Florian Neuhaus (a goalscoring CDM so let's have him also IPO'd please FI @FI_Alex ) to Munch Gladbach which leaves their star man role to 22 yr old Belgian starlet, Benito Raman. He might sound like a pack of noodles but he's a goalscoring wide man however FI have noticed this and priced him at £1. If I could find some transfer hype around this kid then he could fly but didn't notice anything.

      So in a nutshell with regards today you should be safe going for old Ducky boy and if you're into pricey youngsters like most traders then you might be tempted with some Raman Noodles.

      Finally, keep an eye open for Florian Neuhaus and Theoson Siebatchu when they eventually IPO!!

      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • RE: Share Split Winners?

      @Dave-C @Metropolis great contribution there chaps, didn't see the screen grab about the new 200 players! That is very intriguing.

      If it turns out to be introducing Women's footy I think I'll have a job convincing the wife that's why I'm suddenly watching it ;-) on the surface you'd think it could open up to a new demographic but most women I know are anti-gambling and men who follow that football also follow the men's game anyway. (I think!) Dodgy ground even commenting on this one... I'll get me coat.

      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • RE: Share Split Winners?

      @NewUser297399
      I have loaded up but on a much smaller scale. The reason being that more people are switched on to the GK potential than last time plus I was quite late seeing the clues that Media could well be opening up the squad. So going massive on players that have already risen a bit carries more risk than last time where my liability was nothing being offset by a 10% bonus.
      On top of that I bought every keeper going last time and if you take an example of Maignan, he keeps clean sheets for fun but he ain't winning Media any time soon.
      I've bought a shit load of Heaton cos I think he'll be England number 1 but not so many Lloris n Leno.
      No-one knows anything for sure but it's worth bearing in mind.

      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • Share Split Winners?

      Unless you've been sleeping under a rock for the past 2 or 3 months you know full well there's another SS on the horizon, but who are the most likely to benefit from this?

      Mathematically it "should" be business as usual HOWEVER the truth is the current dividend structure simply doesn't lend itself to a neat division whatever number you use, unless you're happy to mess around with decimals which in my opinion looks shoddy.

      In turn, the big AC has stated that they will be as generous as they can be when re-evaluating the new payout structure, so we know for certain (well 99%) that there will be changes and the number of maintenance windows being used would back that up.

      So, if you believe anything you read you'll probably be as convinced as I am that a War Chest is being held back to react to the new dividends when they are announced on Monday the 18th March. It's important to note, if you're new to the platform, that announcements move the market even if the implementation is days or weeks away.

      Which means that (unless every dividend category is increased by the same %, which is highly unlikely) there will be certain types of players that will rocket when the Market is reopened (I think I've read 2 hours after the announcement - but I might have dreamt that one!).

      So the question is who and why!

      To answer this you should try and put yourself in FI's shoes, without bragging I managed to do this during the last announcement and made 8k from second guessing that FI would introduce some value to Goalkeepers, which turned out to be the Clean Sheet Dividend.

      So what do FI really want? If we take the Spread out of the conversation for a moment, we're left with their lifeblood - 2% commission (along with Happy Customers, which most of us are with such a brilliant concept!). In this sense nothing makes them (and us if we get it right) more money than mass volatility. "Will he, won't he" transfer news and injuries are a great source of this but the new mechanism of in-play dividends (IPD) stimulates trading rather than sitting on a hold for 3 years waiting for the divs to drip in so my guess would be that; FI, without detriment to their core principles of PB and MB, will encourage more trading in this area than any other.

      Now take into consideration the amount of money invested in Media Cash Cow's like Pogba and Neymar, making changes that would significantly weaken the value of the top players would no doubt cause uproar with traders who have majorly invested in them based on existing dividends, so I firmly believe that FI will also increase the dividends available in this area too but not quite as much.

      The water here get's slightly mirky if you read into Mike Bohan's tweet asking whether Media should be opened up to the Squad! Plus, during testing there seems to be a suggestion that Media may also become tiered during Match Days too. Put simply, Pogba would theoretically be worth even more as it's highly likely that he'd make the top 3 on a ridiculous basis.

      Where does this leave PB?, my favourite mechanic on the platform (and I'm sure for many others too). Well it can't be neglected that's for sure as it would alienate a huge chunk of their customer base so I suspect they have plans to improve this area here too.

      Reading the above probably suggests that "everyone's a winner" and we all know there must be losers as reserved war chests will not be the only source of investment. A huge amount of money will also be moved from one type to another, we're not all millionaires with spare cash to burn.

      After writing all of the above I won't finish off without making my own predictions and I'm being honest in saying I haven't loaded up on certain players prior to writing this (certainly not 10k splashed on keepers like last time.)

      I think the losers will be the youth and that doesn't actually mean they'll crash, just that I don't think they'll benefit from a rise driven by the announcement (unless FI do something right outside of the box).

      The big winners? in the main I think it'll be very spread out BUT I think that the area that made me a fortune last time could strike twice. We saw that Alisson, when in the top 200, was a media whore, the huge transfer fee helped but GK heroics certainly grab headlines. So IF IF IF they do open it up to the Squad then I think some well known keepers could be really valuable. If they increase the CS payments as part of the IPD then we could see them getting even more value.

      That's my 2 pence, I'm not loaded up on them like before and just an opinion. It's gonna be a very interesting day regardless!

      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • RE: Football Index FAQs

      @Keegan's-Bluff ha yeah that was me. Although at the time keepers were more or less pointless.

      Made a packet on them actually being given value but in hindsight the 2p CS Dividend has turned into a damp squib so there's not much value in them now either really.

      Maybe one day they'll get their own category OR an extension to the 30 days.... and if I manage to see that coming before anyone else I'm gonna go into clairvoyancy ;-)

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    • RE: Jony, Alaves

      Yeah I'm a fan of Jony! Looks cheap to me.

      posted in General Trading Discussion
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    • RE: Gave up twice......

      When the Index eventually plateaus, which it "shouldn't" when the football mad countries are still to get on board (let's face it, Ireland, Sweden and Canada aren't crazy for the beautiful game), then the real trading skill will start to become prevalent. Even today there's players rising 30% on a daily basis and the FOOTIE has stabilised around the 45k mark.

      In one way I can't wait for that because I like testing myself, rather than relying on the FOOTIE to just keep growing as a given.

      posted in General Trading Discussion
      Agatello
      Agatello
    • RE: Today's IPO's - Duncan and Dack

      I'm not surprised by Dack's price but honestly thought Duncan would rise higher, that's not me saying that these kids should be as high as they are, simply a comparison to other youngsters on the Index.

      Right now that's over time to concentrate on G&A/In Play for December!! Gonna be wild I reckon!

      posted in General Trading Discussion
      Agatello
      Agatello
    • Today's IPO's - Duncan and Dack

      Haven't been doing the reviews recently as I honestly think a 12 yr old playing Championship Manager could add as much value but today even though I haven't got time to go into detail I thought I'd offer some benchmarks for 2 that will certainly fly today.

      First of all, take Bobby Duncan, Gerard's Cousin (add Xp for that pointless fact), £1.40 seems high but I think he'll at least double in price given that Mason Greenwood has bust £3, he's at high flying Liverpool with Bayern Munich sniffing. So you could benchmark him with Brewster (2.75) if he sticks around or start pondering that he could be the next Sancho and Nelson if he moves to Germany so I think £3 is probably about right.

      Then take Dack, 10 goals and 6 Assists this season (8 + 2 in the League) and you've got FI gold from a Midfield perspective. This one's harder to predict but being English with the Spurs links probably places him higher than Maupay @ 1.49 but not on the level of Grealish at 2.39 so balls on the line I'd say 1.75.

      There's a couple of strikers coming with old dog Antenucci and the younger Santander but they're not at big clubs and their price isn't that attractive for me.

      Dauda is a young starlet but he's attracting the wrong clubs at this moment in time, Mainz being the best for FI.

      Out of the keepers, MOya is best value but there's loads of great value still around in the same price bracket.

      Good luck getting on Duncan early folks.

      posted in General Trading Discussion
      Agatello
      Agatello
    • RE: Take PB Data sites with a pinch of salt...

      Very good thread here and I'd also add that the Data becomes more valuable as the season goes on, we're only at the end of November remember.

      This season's data will soon show the regular performers and who's likely to go close.

      Last season's data is still useful if things haven't changed or players move to a club with a similar role (Lo Celso was a PB machine when he played last season and his move from PSG to Betis looked a backward step on paper, however he's now playing a lot more, in the more lucrative EL and Betis are possession kings backed up by the stats - so he's now actually worth more in my eyes)

      Finally this summer saw a huge amount of new users who have been buying players based on hype and performance so we're seeing huge rises in players who are highly unlikely to win a PB this season, add to this the new G&A/In Play Dynamics and people are deploying a wide range of trading tactics and might be chasing quicker wins by getting off the tried and tested players, take Banega for example, still performing still winning but his price has stayed relatively static for a while.

      No right or wrong answers but for me I'll be taking more and more notice of the data come January and beyond.

      posted in General Trading Discussion
      Agatello
      Agatello
    • RE: so 58 goal keppers up

      I can confirm there's no inside information leaked. I ploughed 10k into GK's about 16 days ago, I kept it to myself (as some on here can confirm) as I didn't want to be labelled for PnD or starting unsubstantiated rumours.

      The bottom line is that this is a trading platform and we're all placing bets on the future outcome of numerous factors, including product upgrades.

      My PF is up a huge amount and I'm not surprised by it, neither am I going to ditch them pre-announcement. Of course I've mitigated some of the risk by selling a few but no more than 5% of the one's who have risen. People I chat to regularly reckon I should sell about 20% which would be sensible however I've always found sensible a little boring :-).

      For those of you who might think the boat has sailed it might be worth taking a look at this I tweeted earlier. https://twitter.com/AgatelloFI/status/1065535928134000641

      For me the obvious and most predictable big name rises may well have happened, but the true value lies in those relatively unpurchased so far as mentioned many times above.

      To this end, if you don't already, it might be worth trying @Noirx4 premium data product, even just to test it out... as he's sending out well researched data that will arm anyone in a big way ready for 7pm today.

      If it doesn't go my way, c'est la vie and it was definitely worth a go! :-)

      posted in General Trading Discussion
      Agatello
      Agatello