@Dan-The-Man

Sorry that i appeared to target yourself in the other thread it wasnt my intention as i have stated in other threads you were one of the people i did feel sorry for because for everyone larger holdings are now harder to get rid of and much harder at the lower end of the market.

I wanted to make clear the affects that the over use of IS had on other traders in the past and why we are better off without and i wrongly used you as an example at a time when actually many of your budget trades have been very clever and involved players that had strong intrinsic value.

I was getting really pissed off at the constant moaning from others who seem to never be happy no matter what FI do at the moment even though they have pulled FI through this pandemic relatively unscathed. To your credit you havent been one to overly complain about the new system or about FI you have only expressed your frustrations regarding your personal situation

My belief in what i said still stands but im very sorry i appeared to throw you under the bus to make my point as you were a terrible example. Im sure whichever players you are sitting on will still have the demand you planned for but it may take you a while to drip feed them back to other traders

Good luck resolving your current trading issues and once again I apologise

@Ddr those huge spreads are there mainly to protect people with a load of PB players. If they hadnt done it i can guarantee your port would have taken an absolute hammering. FI arent screwing you they are protecting you

@Ericali the bed shitting was so bad that this Sunday will forever more be remembered as Brown Sunday

Im not happy. Its basically a 30% increase with one extra days payout a month. If you want to be arsy about it its actually a payout that amounts to one extra gold and one extra silver day a month.

Does anyone really think thats good enough after the FOOTIE has doubled in 12 months and they have opened up MB to all players.

This dividend structure is to be in place for the next 12 months and it isnt even going to satisfy traders for the next 12 days.

I hope they get their act together and rectify this shite

FI were quite right here. Its fine to talk about other platforms but to actively promote and advertise on another priducts forum is a step too far.

Many of you will remember my angry meltdown towards FI and the poor dividend announcement on the 9th of July and then my overhaul of my portfolio to keepers on the 10th. Since then due to the 5x IPDs ive had my best dividend period ever.

Below is my all time dividends over 2years

And this is my haul since the 10th of July

Now I know this is entirely down to the 5x IPDs but i dont think i could of made these returns on any other type of player during this promo (unless id been lucky enough to buy Son) and reasoning being is that i didnt have to chase these IPDs like i may of had to with goal scorers. I could just buy and sit back knowing that the only player in each team that could get the CS IPD was the keeper whereas with outfield players i either have to pay a premium for a prolific goalscorer or pick a random one and hope for the best which could of led to me losing money. The best part of all is that everyone of these keepers were bought with a longterm hold in mind.

Don’t underestimate how good a keeper hold can be

Wow dont think ive seen overall portfolio growth like this since before the share split. Hopefully it carries on. Im currently up 2.5% in the last 24 hours. Keep it coming

@Fletch exactly mate well said. Id upvote you twice if i could

Im currently making a push in my own personal life to be a more positive and happier person so your request for positivity is welcomed by me. If this forum continues its spiral of negativity im not going to interact as much because none of us need that.

We are a nation of talkers and moaners. We love to complain but not actually do anything, if your problem is with FI take it up with them as it will be more proactive than us all sitting around winding each other up

@johnboywalker very good post which im sure everyone can relate to. Lot of scared traders about but instead of panic fuelling panic they should be looking to folk like yourself for reassurance because the calm heads will be those that prevail. 👍

Have i been hitting the nail on the head here?? I think I well and truly have been ☺️☺️☺️

@Harford-is-God it was exactly like that when i joined and i blame the share split for causing that cal app mentality because before that all the players were valued on what they would return you but once the share split got mentioned no one knew what it would split by so prices really started to inflate and the whole market followed as other players looked cheaper by comparison and ever since then cap app has been the main money maker. Now it will likely be more about earning cap between spreads or dividends over a term

Since i joined in October 2018 i would say we have been absolutely spoiled with Cap app. When i first joined there were whispers of a share split and prices were flying and every time it went flat they threw deposit bonuses or other promos at us. As soon as a promo period ended everyone grumped and moaned because the prices would drop a little.

Now With the order book system cap app isnt the same as before. It could fly more than before at times of high demand but in the most part trading cap app will happen between the spreads. Player graphs should be based on mid price points to highlight this. I doubt deposit bonuses will have the lasting affects they had in the past, they are probably more likely to cause drops and new opportunities to buy low.

We see a lot of people moan about FI moving the goal posts and changing bets but i look back over the 2years ive been here and see that without these constant changes we would have never seen the cap app we have seen, everything they have done has inflated the market by keeping it fresh and the user base excited. The new system kind of resets all of that and lets us go again but now its up to us to put a valuation on those players instead of FI telling us what they are worth. This means we can maintain higher yields and actually keeping prices low is in the best interest of any trader who regularly buys new players.

The cap app game has now become secondary to the dividend game but thats the way it should be and thats how you make money from FI instead of it being purely P2P

Confirmed Mendy going to chelsea

@Lukeroro oh how i hope you are right about a load of 0-0 this weekend

@Number5 i sold Bounou for now because i wasnt sure on the situation, he had returned over 50% in dividends in the short time so i felt it best to cash in before i decided which of the two Sevilla keepers to own

@Ericali im pretty sure FI will issue shares at a price determined by the number of shares in existence like previously and will only be matched when no other offers have been placed. Depth of orders will display that delta at each price point. I think the bids of upto £100 is only for trying to buy rapidly selling players and avoid the refund issue. I dont think they will ever allow us to fully determine price we will always be dealing with an order book that operates within the spread set by FI

@Ericali we will be able to see exactly how many shares moves a penny at each increment once we can see the depth of orders

@Collymore10 not looking likely is it? I suppose it all depends on how quick the order book is up and running and how quickly traders get to grips with it but the drop in all the other players will definitely draw most of the attention

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@Black-Wolf

The players arent worth more.

Players have been over valued by a lot, for months.

Doubling the divs didnt raise their value. It raised the returns and made their value more realistic.

I am sure half of FI thinks if a player was worth £3 before the div increase, and then it was doubled, then they are now worth £6. Which couldnt be further from the truth.
If a player was listed as £3, then its true value was below half that (in most cases), so say £1.50. The div increase didnt increase it to be worth £6, it just made the £3 more realistic

why did you buy them then ?

@MrWh1te And if you bought them before they were overpriced why didnt you sell them once you felt they where getting overpriced?

@TotalPunt i really hope they are working hard on introducing depth of orders and with that removing the limitations on the order book. What FI have to understand is that some of those low offers maybe werent as irrational as we might think, some may have been people with money tied up since March and some may have been complete idiots but the point is if they had let it run its course the market would have recovered and stabilised over time but they have slowed that process and actually set it up to happen all over again.

We need to get to a point where people are happy and can trade amongst themselves and FI but this at the moment suits no one its just another ticking time bomb ready to go off. And for what? Just so we can have slightly better profit figures for a little while longer?

Theres no easy way to make this transition because i can guarantee all those that panicked on Sunday haven’t went away and started learning and preparing for order books like they should have been so when the training wheels come off history will repeat itself and it will be same people that panic.

The best thing FI could do is just let it run its course and get this difficult period over and done with