Hi Mike. Bit of a storm Brewing over MB, going to be more and more vocal outrage as one weeks data becomes one month and still it's clear squad players winning MB is far more prevelant than 7%. I've sold my large holdings in Pogba and Neymar based on new info, at considerable expense. But now I have, I can see several issues with the future of the platform. My port was £50k and I've moved from top end players to sub £1.50. If the 'whales' follow suit... Some of these guys have £500,000 +... The IPD/outside pb&mb players will be saturated in the blink of an eye. With the elite players previously having added value for that exclusive shot at MB, 365 days a year, there was a clear growth pattern to the index. This is observed by the youth bubble... The hope that a Haland would move to Utd and sort the goalscorer problem, thus becoming an 'MB beast' is an example. Now its wide open, and PB is already considered something of a lottery... The platform massively favours a scatter gun approach at cheap chancers... Where 1 win is a higher ROI than paying £7 for 10 wins for example. This will affect long term liquidity massively. You've effectively halved the ceiling price for the best holds on the market and opened up added value to the 1000s of previously undesirable players (who were still traded in low volume generating healthy profit I'm sure as no chance of paying out dividends on them). Now it's happened, I feel increasing mb prize money or even places will compound the effect. Without a segregation between elite and cheap the money will always flow to the cheap punt. How about offering 1p prize money daily to the squad players for mb... And 2p daily for the top 200. Creates that focused liquidity again, retains an 'investment' feel to the product... But also adds value and purpose to the rest of the market... Appealing to the masses as well as big budget investors. Regards, Vespasian.
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RE: Priority customer support
I dont think it's right. It's apartheid between rich and poor. If they were going to prioritise I'd rather they gave new customers better service... Like for first 3 months you are a priority customer. They are the most at risk of leaving
Official pre-announcement hype, dreams,expectation thread
We typically see a dozen threads within a matter of minutes when a new announcement happens and it dilutes the conversation.
Can we try our best to keep it one place tonight please.
I've set this thread up for that purpose... As of 6pm let's get all our thoughts and reactions in one place
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Good luck tonight everyone, let's hope there no can of worms like a Gk category, or 500% ipd rise compare to a 5% pb rise. I think we will all be happy ☺
RE: For any new traders out there just buy pogba
@Mundek this is the argument in a nutshell - I am a huge advocate of Pogba and Neymar. But ive openly stated/advised people on lower budgets not to bother. I know the % can be extrapolated as the same... but in my mind each dividend win has to be directly reinvestable OR withdrawn. So I would be targeting £5-10 for a win as this money, to me, has a tangible worth. Winning 10p is meaningless to me... I cant even buy 1 share in a worthy IPD player for that. But if I win £5+ for every Neymar MB win... this is really worth while.. as I can invest once, then keep recycling the winnings in cheap players. 10 shares @ 50p every couple of days, turning that into 10 shares at 70p becomes really profitable.
With cap ap ONLY you have to keep selling shares to buy or making further deposits. Not everyone can endlessly deposit everytime they want to move into a new IPD striker for example
So yes... I now have 1500 Neymar, 800 Pogba, 1000 rashford and not everyone can afford that in at all, let alone in a diverse port. But that means ill be winning £200-300 this week alone. That buys me 1000 shares in a bonucci or 300-500 shares in the 80-100p category. They will make cap ap and ipd and maybe PB... so my initial outlay on Neymar and Pogba is now creating multiple revenue streams, and multiple players in my port that I could sell to generate more cash.
Just as it isn't a sensible strategy for someone with £40 to buy 5 Pogbas .. its not sensible for someone with £5k plus to buy 20,000 Doherty. It skews the base price of a cheap player too much … too hard to sell... high risk timing it right.
RE: Ways to improve FI and attract many more users..
I would start by making a single, double and treble PB days be exactly that so 2p/1p on single day, 4p/2p on double day and 6p/3p on treble day for position/star man splits
Personally I'd always advocate more places than upping the prize money for existing. You can buy a good set of pb players based on data... But on any given day some rat bastard CB scores a brace and gets star man. So annoying! By adding extra places and/or make star man it's own category it adds value to 'pb players'
My idea... Single day pays first place only, double day pays top 2 in each category, treble pays top 3
Best day outside of announcements?
Today has been almost a perfect score... 9 strikes and a spare!
Gna for salah, mane, dembele
The £500 cap ap is nicely spread between a pogba/neymar revival at the top end... Havertz, pepe, brewster and Co in the middle bracket and some 🚀 cheapies like Ndiaye.
4 months ago I made a deposit I thought risky at the time of £500 with a hope of doubling it in a year... Now (after several larger deposits) I've made it in a day.
I think this has been my most profitable day outside of an announcement ☺
Any newbies that may have taken some big hits this week... Stick with it... There is money to be made!
RE: Stop losses - gamble responsibly
I took out a wedge last night... Final straw was my Mrs getting involved sending me links about Italian football etc.. No amount of money is worth trying to explain the index to her!
I've kept my Josh Onomah and Luis Advincula 😂
I reckon they will do a deposit bonus so I'll throw £20-30k back in straight away and just set myself new exit points etc.
My taking money out isnt about my faith in the index or my strategy... Purely self discipline to prevent that gamblers mentality of writing off losses until before you know it you thought you were walking away with life changing money, to being happy just taking a small win or loss or stake back out etc. Evry time I pass a certain amount... I set a new exit point. This was the first time I hit one of them.
RE: What is wrong with the current Matrix?
Conceptually I understand that a perfect matrix will mean that most footy fans can watch a game, agree roughly who was motm... Go check the pb scores and see a similar agreement.
But in reality I think people want the unattainable. The best players in the world have intangible assets... How can a pts matrix ever understand VVD leadership qualities... Or reading of the game when he can just use body Shape to block a player run, or shepherd the ball back to his keeper.
How can the matrix decide between a silly foul that puts your team in trouble, and a tactical foul that saves your team a goal?
If a team has two banks of 4 defending deep and narrow... Maybe high volume of low % crosses is your best tactic to win, as you will win all the second balls and disrupt their shape.
The game of football can't be boiled down to a fixed pt scoring system. So any matrix is going to fail before it begins. I'd like some tweaks... Like getting rid of gwg, or making it more dynamic depending on game situation (tho again, subjective and impossible to configure a computer to do this). But essentially I think it's futile...
Cbs are losing out to fbs... Erm let's boost headers (suddenly realise a team like Burnley don't play out from the back and have more gks and free kicks in their own half than anyone, and they always play long ball and before we know it Jeff hendrick is king of the Index and everyone is crying again...
Whatever changes are made, itl take very little time for a clear set of pb suited players to emerge and the complaints will start again
For me the most important thing is to pick a matrix and stick to it for a sustained period of time. If FI came out and said... We are using this pb matrix until June 2021...i would instantly get more friends on the platform as I would have faith in my recommendations on who to buy. I havent recommended the product to anyone since the split because the goalposts are changing too much... And I don't want to advise someone to buy TAA and kimmich... For three weeks later TAA to be fucked by the matrix and kimmich to be fucked by position etc.