@NallyCat Had to change to Fati mate, hoping he can hold off the messi charge and win star man. Has a 17 year old ever won star man on a gold day before?

@NallyCat who to watch tonight, him or fati? 2 17 year olds starting for 2 european behemoths. Exciting times.

had a bit of a drop after that. I wonder how many holders sold off the back of no goal notifications and didnt see the game?

Will wait till hes likely named on the bench sunday to top up when the rest of the soft money leaves and he likely drops again. He reminds me of tevez regarding his work rate and doing everything at 100mph. Hes so direct and is always trying to make something happen. He plays with no fear at all and always looks a threat to score and create goals. Had 3 good chances tonight.

Tonights game made me more confident in him as a hold than before as a lot of things he tried didnt come off at all, but the fact he was trying things was so exciting to watch. The way his game is tailored you can see when it does its gonna come off big for him like it did in his 30 minute cameo on sunday. Sancho would be the closest current player on the index to compare him to imo in terms of what he could potentially offer pb wise given the similarities and fearlessness both have in their game when they are on the ball.

Some players you watch and you just know if they get lucky with injuries and have the right attitude and hunger they will go far. If this becomes a pooled index, when spain joins hes going to be one who benefits massively from that. Id be surprised if he was still at sociedad at the start of the 2021/2022 season. Hes a star in the making should the fundamentals like injuries and hunger be well.

@johnboywalker I dont take it personally mate? i said i couldnt care less and ill (maybe foolishly) place my trust with the authority. Opta partner with index gain. If you believe differently then thats cool.

Iv put the question to the guy who runs the platform and he informed me the numbers were reliable and the cs wasnt added. Cs shows up on other pages for forwards and i know that is accurate and isnt added to their scores. That will do for me, i dont have time to do the sleuth thing. If it doesnt do for you and you are less trusting thats ok. If you want to be the resource for this kinda stuff thats cool, im quite happy to outsource it to ppl who have the direct access to things i dont know or cant be arsed to figure out.

If it one day tuns out you are right i will give you an upvote to keep your forum reputation in immaculate order and to show there is no hard feelings. I actually admire the fact you want to question things like this, i just dont find it a very practical use of time.

@MickTurbo and your efforts trying to figure this out is a fucking stellar effort but is exactly the reason why i am happy to outsource it. It looks like you are both playing a game of countdown trying to figure it all out. We all agree tho that it would be better if there was a better breakdown resource for full transparency.

In the meantime Id much rather spend my time looking for spanish based players to gnosh off whilst everyone else has spent up on bruno, berge, germans and these ipos. Viva la index.

@johnboywalker I have no access to every opta powered number, but index gain does given they are in partnership with it. If you trust yourself more than you trust them then thats fine. To each their own.

i dont have time to bust my balls doing that its why i pay another platform to do it for me, i trust it given they partnered with the very people who run the matrix, if you dont thats your choice. As much as i can tell you have just picked up pieces from multiple fragmented jigsaws to prove a point. Well done, point well made.

If its wrong fair play to you, if you have direct access to opta to prove you were right fair play to you. In the meantime ill put my trust in those that do have direct access to opta. I dont know everything and i dont care to when i can pay someone else to know it all for me. iv no interest in conspiracy theorys or wondering if the earth is flat. I will trust the authority and more fool me if im wrong, i just dont care enough.

And btw that score is still chiesas 3rd highest by a distance for his club. in 1 start and without a gwg. It would be chiesas highest score for his club without a gwg even if you were right.

@johnboywalker How can their data be wrong when the people who provide them with it are also the people who power the FI matrix? Opta partner with both platforms. So why would you be right and opta be wrong?

I dont get all this talk about wanting the site to freeze. Iv heard this around a few places. Surely we all want the index to be profitable and stable long term over earning a few quid in the short term? All this lets hope it freezes bollocks says a lot tbh. For any new users if you hear that sort of statement you should quickly realise whos prepared to sell you down the river for a few quid

I would like to get involved but i hope things run smoothly so it doesnt cost FI a fortune. Id rather they used that money more productively to expand the platform for everyone rather than line a select few greedy traders pockets.

@johnboywalker On the ball, well spotted, just got confirmation from bishop that is not added to the overall score was just because he had played 90. iv just been through a couple of other reports too and clean sheets is a metric that is tallied up there too without accrediting incorrect positions the points so its totally normal. Never paid too much attention to it given i rarely hold defenders.

The scout reports only contain limited data, the full breakdown of the opta reports can only be accessed on there for players already on the platform. but these the numbers they do have. And without a clean sheet it would still be chiesas 3rd highest score for his club this season. Looks like he might have been on corners that game too as @NallyCat alluded to earlier which is even more exciting.

@johnboywalker See above. The data comes from index gain and they are partnered with opta so no reason as to why this wouldnt be true.

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That was the biggest reason i kept some back. Hope he gets a start either tomorrow night in the coppa italia or in Martinez absence at the weekend too.