@PeteZac hopefully a bit sooner, still hopefully if our idea gets some interest we may get it kicked off for the new season ,if not the guys and I will just do it amongst ourselves.
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RE: FUN question
@PeteZac will have a look , at present my group are all local to eachother and have been toying with this Fantasy Football meets FI concept for a few months as we are all busy and don't want to have to monitor the Football Index as we have in the past. This is a set and run style of investment which we kind of did with FI originally and then seemed to get sucked into it.
I am more than happy to post the idea up on the facebook page and see what interest there is. I dont know if £1000 is an ideal entry point but maybe £500 or even £250 but that can be ironed out if it gets off the ground. Do you just want me to post the rules up?
Here the scenario! Football Index decide for whatever reason to change the format of the site! A group of my mates are gonna attempt this and see how we get on. Thought it would be an interesting excercise in patience.
1/ You are only allowed to own 11 Players.
2/ You have to hold for a Year.
3/ Divs remain as is on FI..
4/ your 11 players should be made up of:
1 X GK.
4 X DEF.
3 X MDF.
3 X FWD.
All as they are catagorised today!
5/ Can be picked from either Squad, Top200 or both.
6/ Must keep original selections for the year.( Except in circumstances in 7)
7/ You can choose 4 players as subs which you can use only if any of your original team suffer an injury. You have to sell your injured player and use the proceeds to pay for your sub.
8/ you have £1000 to spread across your selections buying any amount of shares per player but not exceeding £1000 in total for the team.
What's your team?😁😁
Just a bit of fun so no need to comment or justify your picks, but hyperthetically I would expect something like a 1st,2nd and 3rd prize bonus at the end of the year.
DEF - VVD
DEF - Alexander Arnold
DEF - Skriniar
MDF - Hazard
MDF - Pulisic
MDF - Kimmich
FWD - Messi
FWD - Kane
FWD - Salah
Subs - GK - Alisson
DEF - Trippier
MID - Thauvin
FWD - Pepe
RE: Pogba, Hold or sell
As I said each position is scored the same so as a midfield player you will tackle more,pass more etc. The average score will be higher for a midfielder just by the nature of how it is scored and the position on the field. Just because the average score for a Midfielder is higher than an attacker /Fwd doesn't mean there is more competition and therefore harder. If you take pens as Pogba does and pass the ball around midfield for 90 mins you are gonna score well , throw in a few tackles make a few interceptions your getting upthere for PB. Meanwhile your attacker is rarely coming deep, rarely tackling and is relying on the midfielders for service. He scores his PB points with shots on target getting an assist and scoring goals. If your Rashford and been waiting 90 mins for the ball cos your midfield have been tippy tappying the ball back and forth racking up the points, breaking up the opponents attacks with point scoring tackles you aren't gonna score anywhere near the same points. To add insult to injury you get a last minute penalty and the midfielder steps up to score even more points. Midfielders such as Pogba score points far easier than Fwds under the current PB scoring system which is why the average Midfield PB scoresare higher.
RE: Pogba, Hold or sell
Midfielders have a slightly higher winning average so its tougher for pogba to win than hazard.
Sorry yes this is the part I am in disagreement with! That's what I was rambling on about. But the short version is I don't think using the candlesticks to compare players in different positions isn't efficient enough and gives skewed results.
RE: Pogba, Hold or sell
@LuaLua I disagree with that statement mainly due to the fact that the higher winning average of Midfielders against Forwards isn't relevant as a comparison. The scoring for performance is the same for forwards and midfielders and its no coincidence midfielders score higher. They score higher due to the fact they will see more of the ball ,get more tackles in and tap the ball around in midfield scoring points for completed passes. Under Mourinho Pogba would have scored highly as his tactics bored the ball to death in Midfield. A forward scores less due to being less likely to make as many tackles and making less passes. To compare them using the PB scoring when they play in different positions isn't going to be an accurate reflection. As your candlesticks show midfielders do score higher but its actually easier to score points especially if you add goals and assists which he and Hazard have similar strike rates this season. Hazard has 16 goals and Pogba 15, Hazard with 16 assists Pogba 11.
This is the total PB rankings for when Hazard was classified as a Midfielder and his figures don't include this season where he has been an attacker. You will notice Kimmich as a Midfielder last season and parejo outscored both Pogba and Hazard with our guys returning the same in that position.
Dividend Rankings By Value
01/08/2017 - 18/05/2019 | mid
:moneybag: Total Dividends
#1 : £2.26 : Paul Pogba (£7.59)
#2 : £1.17 : Eden Hazard (£4.62)
#3 : £0.54 : Mesut Ozil (£1.22)
#4 : £0.54 : Philippe Coutinho (£2.00)
:soccer: Perfomance Dividends
#1 : £0.50 : Daniel Parejo (£1.02)
#2 : £0.40 : Joshua Kimmich (£2.39)
#3 : £0.32 : Paul Pogba (£7.59)
#4 : £0.32 : Thiago Alcántara (£1.81)
#5 : £0.32 : Eden Hazard (£4.62)
The prominent thing for me is the overwhelming amount of media dividends Pogba has raked in in that period and again Hazard has held his own considering his was accrued last season. So as much as the candles are useful for comparing averages for players in the same position they get skewed if you are trying to cross reference positions using them. So as for next season the competition between them will be interesting but I would still question the value in Pogba given he costs nearly £3 a share more.