I'm away for the weekend with a mate (we joined Index together in 2017) & he's just won £5000 in the cash drop. Fortunately we're going halves. The beer will flow tonight 😁
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RE: Hudson odoi
all i'm doing is throwing down the gauntlet... Andy M says bad investment today at £3.21... i say good.... so lets see in...
It could be a close run thing so I'm prepared to put my neck on the line... I would think £3.21 isn't that risky considering the huge drop but could be wrong... the only way we can agree on who's right is to see on the above dates and present facts... rather than insults???
Just trying to defend my position which I feel I have a right to do without the need to get into persistent name calling!!!!
Lets leave it at that. I'm happy to update on the above when necessary!!!
Andy made a very valid point IMO, buying CHO now is an AWFUL trade.
If trader A pays £3.21 for 100 shares at a cost of £321, that money is now invested for the long haul. Even if CHO rises over the next 9 months back to £4.50 or more, that's a poor ROI in my opinion, over that length of time. I guarantee that over the summer that £321 could be put to much better use & more than likely doubled over a 9 month or more period. Buying CHO now at best might return a 30% or so ROI, but probably won't even return that now. He's made his Premier league & England debuts & I'm pretty sure this type of injury would put off any clubs that were previously interested in buying. At least till they've seen him play again & it's confirmed he's fully recovered. CHO was previously so over inflated in price due to the media hype, England, Sarri refusing to play him, Bayern sniffing around. That hypes gone for now!
So, I'm with @Andy-M on this one & think it was a bad trade.
@dannypea You clearly have a big holding in CHO & don't want people putting others off buying & re-inflating his price. Well........ tough. This is a forum where we are all entitled to an opinion & shouldn't be attacked for expressing it.
RE: What will happen with Pogba now?
Pogba's rose to the dizzy heights he did on the back of being managed by arguably the most controversial & outspoken manager the premier league has ever seen. Add to that they didn't particularly like one another & made that very obvious, then of course at that time he was media gold & was actually undervalued at his peak. With the dividend yield he produced at that time he should have been £3 or so more expensive than his nearest rival.
But as a few have already pointed out, media kings don't last forever. Unless of course they're being written about due to their outstanding performances on the pitch week in week out. I can only think of Messi & Ronaldo who tick this box.
Salah was media gold in his first season at Liverpool. Have his performances dropped since? Maybe a little but he's still performing very well, but that's now expected & its not BIG news anymore, like it was when he shocked the footballing world in his debut season.
I'd argue that Pogba underperforming for Utd is now almost expected & NO longer BIG news. Add to that, that Ole isn't outspoken or controversial. Then where do Pogba's future MB wins come from?
Returning from injury
With the exception of transfer spec I don't see how he will regularly win MB from the other 3 categories listed above. The problem there is that when the the transfer spec MB divs come rolling in, other traders will be selling for fear of the move actually materialising. So what you win in divs you lose in capital appreciation.
Now this is the perspective of someone who has never owned Pogba. It's a completely impartial view from a trader that probably over thinks every trade 🤣
RE: Sancho. Best teenager in the world
CHO is better in pretty much better in every way imo but I hold Sancho cos he's a great player himself
Well you must be a youth coach at Chelsea enabling you to make such an assessment?
Sancho - plays 90 minutes week in week out in the Bundersliga & Champions League.
CHO - 119 minutes of Premier League football & a few games against second rate opposition in the UEFA Cup.
Don't get me wrong CHO may become a world beater. But to make that call on someone who has yet to be deemed good enough to start a Premier League game is a little silly.
RE: Think I'm finished
No. But I learnt the hard way. I bought FF players, lost a couple of quid, read the rules, digested them. Bought appropriately & I've made a fair few quid in doing so.
I'm honestly sick of hearing people moan about the PB scoring system. The points break down is there for all to see. If you choose to ignore it & then blindly buy a prolific goal scorer that only has 15 touches a game, then that's your fault. Don't moan about it & announce you're leaving. Just leave, or educate yourself before spending your cash on players & make a few quid. Simple really!
RE: Roma players...
Brian Cristante looks like a hidden gem to me.
Won PB recently, 23 years old, 4 goals & 3 assists from 13 league starts & now playing 90 minutes week in week out , after a shaky start to his Roma career. 6 caps for Italy & all for £1.56 a future. As people keep mentioning post share split prices, he'll be 39p!
Jordi Alba at £1.11 looks decent value following this announcement IMO.
He averages the most passes per game for Barcelona with 94 a game & 1.8 key passes (extra points). That's a lot of PB points as a baseline. Add 25 if Barca keep a clean sheet & 18 for a win
With the additional points for tackles, interceptions, crosses etc....... he will only need an assist or a goal to be in serious contention for PB.
In 305 career appearances for Barca he's scored 16 goals & got 57 assists.
In 70 appearances for Spain he's scored 8 goals.
Barca should also go deep in the Champs League where they pay treble PB from the quarter finals onwards.
Spain should also go close to winning the Euros.
The only downside is he's 30. But he looks almost certain to return a good percentage of his current price in divs alone this season.
Anyone disagree or see better value elsewhere?
RE: Felix Owners Must Be Raging!
@GarethG You said the important thing there.
If it were suddenly changed... keyword being suddenly.
Do it over time. Announce it now for next season. Nobody's already set their portfolio in stone for next season. We don't know for certain where any player will even be playing.
And as I said earlier... they didn't compensate traders for the impact the share-split had or the impact IPD had and they won't be compensating traders for the impact getting rid of the Top 200 have next season. So why would they spefically have to do that for this?
The problem is that if FI announce tomorrow that in 6 months they are amending the PB scoring matrix, everyone will react INSTANTLY.
So I suppose it depends on what amendments you are proposing?
Getting rid of the GWG wouldn't really effect much, but FI won't do this, because it makes predicting PB winners more difficult & they want it to be difficult. I'm sure they'd rather a 30, 40 or 50p player win than a £7 player. The less obvious & cheaper the PB winner the less they have to pay out in dividends. I think this is the sole reason the GWG points are included.
Minus 5pts for being caught offside is harsh, making pacey strikers that play on the defenders shoulder less attractive I suppose.
After that though I don't really see a problem.
Minus 3pts for losing possession seems fair to me.
Minus 5 for a foul, -5 for a yellow card, -15 if your team loses all seem fair too.
The key thing to racking up a big score is a high volume of passes as a baseline. Are you saying that passes shouldn't be rewarded? 1pt per successful pass is as low as they can score it?
Another key point to racking up big scores, is not to be sloppy in possession & not give fouls away, are you saying that these actions should not have a negative effect on a player's score?
Using Felix as an example from last night he would have scored the following for his 3 goals & assist
3 goals = 120pts
3 shots = 9pts
3 shots on target = 15pts
Assist (plus successful pass) = 11pts
Team won = 18pts
Total = 173pts
Is that not reward enough in terms of points?
You'd surely expect any player to convert a PB win from that baseline score?
So seriously what do you propose? More points for a goal? Assist? Shot on target?
No loss of points for fouls or giving the ball away?
More points for winning a foul (currently 4pts)?
RE: Growth in 2019
Despite never holding Pogba or Neymar (or many big guns really) God knows why!
I've managed to make some healthy profits.
Net deposit £5615
Current portfolio value £12917
It just shows you that you can still make good money at the bottom end of the market as well as the top. Although I can't say that I don't regret not buying Pogba & co. I keep thinking I've missed the boat & yet they keep rising!
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RE: Midfielder recommendations
Pulgar should be in any midfield conversation, particularly at his current price. He bagged me two Gold PB wins in last season's restarted games. Seems settled at Fiorentina now, and on most set pieces (including penalties).
I also held him throughout that spell. Excellent PB player. Currently at about 50% of his peak price. Arguably the very very best players could be better value, but there arent too many other than Kimmich, KDB, Bruno who make more appeal in my opinion. There are other excellent PB players like RdP and Kostic but these players are cross monsters and as such, probably have a shelf life for all but the staunchest holders, so I could probably count on the fingers of 1 hand, themidfielders that I think are better value than Pulgar
Have you seen the articles linking Pulgar to a move to Leeds?
As a holder myself I'm concerend that if the move did happen he'd be no where near the PB threat he is currently.
RE: I'd love to know the answer to this question
🤣🤣 I honestly can't work it out or I'd have bought a few thousand shares in his soon to be successor.
As it stands I don't own a single player from the Sevilla squad, but would like to add 1 or 2. They seem to play a style that suits the matrix & they certainly know how to go deep in the European competitions.
@trig he's holding out for more money & Bayern will more than likley yield to his demands. If they don't then media divs will be incoming & he'll end up at another elite European club. It's win win. He's one of the most undervalued players on the platform IMO
I'd love to hear a reason why he's not in your portfolio?
I'll kick off with a few reasons why he should be.
- In the top 10 of all players in Europen Leagues for volume of accurate passes per game.
- No longer has to compete with Kimmich for defender PB
- Austrias main man at the the Euros where he generally plays in a more advanced role
- Transfer spec
I'd love to hear a negative because I can't think of a single one at his current price