@Fletch

FI created an innovative product based off of the most popular sport followed by millions of passionate fans. A good proportion like to be able to make money on a topic they think they know well and the U.K. population do like a punt / investment and are not adverse to risk (although fairness is a principle that is held very dear..).

The product has changed and coming to it fresh now as a punter, I think has every opportunity to boom again. I would enjoy the product with ‘new money’’, I think we are getting to a market valuation that fits the rules that exist now (maybe a further slight dip to come).

FI need to solve the ‘trapped’ clientele & money is the only way to solve.

I have loved the journey since Oct 2017, plenty of time, effort and enjoyment. I made nice profit, but then a 270% drop in portfolio value and every running bet from March 2020 being a material losing bet, due to rule changes to remove FI liability has FI grappling with unfairness sentiments - they do need to address .

Seems to me that FI must offer clients with bets running pre-March 2020 an equitable way out. Options could include :-

a) Close out bets and make them a non-runner and return stake (with a premium)
b) Restart bets with 3 year shelf life with rebates on price drop
c) Mint new player shares and give to impacted traders to dilute the loss
d) Provide FI trading balance (with withdrawal restrictions)

This will likely cost big money and run into the £millions.

Long term traders are reasonable and FI cannot fund then they need to think of options to fund.

Maybe unique offers such as FI equity (allow long term traders to have skin in the game of success).
Maybe a fund raise will bring a war chest to solve and just offer hard cash to resolve the sense of unfairness.

In the meantime the drop continues, dividend yields increase and the new game looks promising. I agree FI are driving to a short term trading, game rather than a long term one, but not for those that bought into the hype of £7, £10 then £15 player valuations (propelled by FI themselves) then the increase yields will never recover the cost of the bet.

Rule changes and product implementations need to be fair; IS, Order Books, Market Makers, Nasdaq, Liquidity, I think unfairness is the FI problem and they need to address to move forward.

@Noirx4 - Congrats on the 👶 🍼 enjoy the sleepless nights, maybe a bit of player FI research as you do the night shift..

Agree a little take on the index, think down to all planning for SS, plus players values getting hit when they exit Cups, transfer window shutting and we seem to have had a lack of treble match / media days (too many singles).

Roll on end of March and of course the mighty Hornets 🐝 Quarter final versus Palace (Zaha will dive, get a penalty, score and probably get sent off for diving and then retaliation...) hopefully in between Watford sneak a couple of goals..

I refuse to answer, otherwise I will be banished from the forum. Good question though... Noir is keen on the Iranian lad.

Agatello - first podcast I have listened to from FI and enjoyed the format, insights and relaxed feel of the gig.
You missed tipping up Chalobah but other than that excellent.
Next up - Talk sport? You could be guesting on the Alan Brazil Breakfast show.

Top player, won European awards when at Leicester. £60 million is not a bench warmer price...
IMO will play lots, PB will be great with the possession at Man City.
Sane on the left, Mahrez on the right, security of Walker behind him. What’s not to like?
Will probably break his leg first game of the season....

Agatello - great to see you getting a voice.

Be good to consider when Adam Cole and the management team plan to return monies to seed investors and how that will impact FI traders. Presumably will be either an IPO or a big Gambling company (Betfair) will make a bid that cannot be refused for the concept and 200,000+ account holders.

Good to muse on what the outcome for FI traders could be...

Loyalty bonuses? / immediate promotional activity / expansion to grow the business and therefore value of players? Etc

&

What is the next evolution / marketing idea to drive the growth of the platform game? Maybe get a couple of ideas from somewhere and raise in the podcast:-
e.g.
a) Head to Head PB / MB team selections for FA cup route to £50,000 FI traders award
b) Regular podcasts / channel bit like Fantasy Football for for FI

Etc... If you can please get Chalobah into the Podcast as well🤣

Think, I am getting to grips with F1 with this post helping my thinking. Best trade yet, bought into Salah (100) @ 4.29 and sold market sell @ 6.34 yesterday.
Great player and good PB, but think maybe topping out (as a few of you on this post may be thinking)and due for a fall... so closed out the profit.. (makes up for Brewster/PEA).
Reinvested elsewhere..
Will probably push on through the £7 mark - but realising you just need to be happy on a deal by deal basis - and I am here..

@LukeMalla

Wooden spoon competition for the round in play between us...

All - well played all and great compo, been fun.

Nope - pants idea

Kasper Schmeichal is your man, cheap as chips, WC bound and Leicester in form l, but still a busy man and more to the point class...

@Black-Wolf
Would you be good enough to invite me to the Discord group, been on FI for 3 years.

@Fletch

FI created an innovative product based off of the most popular sport followed by millions of passionate fans. A good proportion like to be able to make money on a topic they think they know well and the U.K. population do like a punt / investment and are not adverse to risk (although fairness is a principle that is held very dear..).

The product has changed and coming to it fresh now as a punter, I think has every opportunity to boom again. I would enjoy the product with ‘new money’’, I think we are getting to a market valuation that fits the rules that exist now (maybe a further slight dip to come).

FI need to solve the ‘trapped’ clientele & money is the only way to solve.

I have loved the journey since Oct 2017, plenty of time, effort and enjoyment. I made nice profit, but then a 270% drop in portfolio value and every running bet from March 2020 being a material losing bet, due to rule changes to remove FI liability has FI grappling with unfairness sentiments - they do need to address .

Seems to me that FI must offer clients with bets running pre-March 2020 an equitable way out. Options could include :-

a) Close out bets and make them a non-runner and return stake (with a premium)
b) Restart bets with 3 year shelf life with rebates on price drop
c) Mint new player shares and give to impacted traders to dilute the loss
d) Provide FI trading balance (with withdrawal restrictions)

This will likely cost big money and run into the £millions.

Long term traders are reasonable and FI cannot fund then they need to think of options to fund.

Maybe unique offers such as FI equity (allow long term traders to have skin in the game of success).
Maybe a fund raise will bring a war chest to solve and just offer hard cash to resolve the sense of unfairness.

In the meantime the drop continues, dividend yields increase and the new game looks promising. I agree FI are driving to a short term trading, game rather than a long term one, but not for those that bought into the hype of £7, £10 then £15 player valuations (propelled by FI themselves) then the increase yields will never recover the cost of the bet.

Rule changes and product implementations need to be fair; IS, Order Books, Market Makers, Nasdaq, Liquidity, I think unfairness is the FI problem and they need to address to move forward.

@Happy-Hornet @FOF
Pickford seems to have risen, so back in the green for me 👍🏻 Now those clean sheets ..

@trig
Gold dividend day winner of PB (striker and star player)

@Columbia

I weighed in at £2.76 beginning of the year and the last week has been very welcome 👍🏻

Watch someone do it..

@FOF Pickford and has England / Euros benefit to boot (I bought at 34p last week), you can get him cheaper now 😩

@doublesfordough

Well said and your experience mirrors my FI journey and current position / feelings.

I love the concept and the FI approach over the years has been refreshing, although the recent change in direction has been challenging .. feels like FI had a strategy change and then wanted to move quickly to this end game and didn’t realise that their clientele wasn’t large enough or ready - a significant misread.

FI is breaking new ground and I therefore give them some rope (quite a lot recently) and likewise I HOPE they can turn the corner to make the product enjoyable and fun and a platform for football fans/supporters who like a punt with a twist of an investment feel. (Normal rider don’t use funds you are not prepared to lose).

Ismail Sarr - big move coming and will be a perm league star