No. Even though there's some short-term pain opening up MB to all was right for the index and for it's simplicity moving forward.
On another note, why shouldn't Lys Mousset be winning media today - he scored the winner in a 1-0 win against Arsenal and the should be the most talked about thing today and should get dividends. The bigger joke, if anything, is Pepe winning top forward in a 1-0 loss over Mousset who scored the decisive goal in the game but nobody has complained about that.
@ScouseSte It's all noise - I'd say to anyone pay no attention to the noise. By all means read different views and sit back and form your own judgement but don't listen to certain people just cos they shout the loudest.
It's sad to say but the forum has become about he who shouts loudest and a few egos taking over. Some very good traders with balanced views have been contributing less and less - I'm sure through becoming sick and tired of the way the forum has gone.
Everybody has an agenda but some are shouting louder and pushing more - the smartest traders don't need to shout non-stop, they quietly go about their business and don't feel the need to brag non-stop. Stay smart people, be aware of potential changes but draw your own conclusion - the most profitable trades can often be through doing the opposite to everyone else.
P.S. As for game winning goal it will never go imo. It is the equivalent of 0 on a roulette wheel and is FI's edge - they need that element of randomness to prevent things becoming too predictable.
@Londoner Not sure I agree. Why does the phrase Football Stockmarket translate to long-term trading for you? There are plenty of short-term traders in most markets who co-exist alongside long-term traders - and in most of those markets most long-term traders wouldn't be checking their portfolios every hour.
The difference here is people say they're long term-traders and the world is ending at the first sign of red - that isn't long-term trading. I see absolutely no reason why the two can't co-exist but long-term traders need to do just that and ignore the daily/weekly peaks and troughs.
If there was any money available for additional dividends then I would much rather see it allocated to PB than MB.
MB serves a purpose which is to provide good dividends on days when there is no football. On days where is football being played in a PB league then it is absolutely PB that should be the focus for dividends - and this is where I would channel any future increase. I would start by making a single, double and treble PB days be exactly that so 2p/1p on single day, 4p/2p on double day and 6p/3p on treble day for position/star man splits.
I've actually changed my view over the last few days. I was very much of the view that he was going this summer but I now believe it makes much more sense for all parties for a move to happen in 12 months time. These are my reasons for changing my view:
Gee! We’ve had 3 months of bonuses and now FI are giving away £5000 and people are disappointed.
Whilst to the bigger traders it will seem like little to the masses of smaller traders the amounts will be significant.
FI didn’t have to do anything since we’re all getting a nice bonus next week anyway so I commend them for the effort mate here
@ToffeeBlue Everyone looks at different things here. Personally the average is pretty much irrelevant to me as it isn't the average that will win PB but the high peak scores.
An average of 100 is pretty useless as far as im concerned if the player just has a load of scores between 90 and 110.
A perfect example on Footy Index Scout is TAA and Robertson.
Robertson has an overall average of 101 but has never won PB.
TAA has an overall average of 85 but has 6 PB wins.
Now look at their top 5 average and you will see why. TAA has a top 5 average of 217 and Robertson 178. Robertson is more consistent but never gets the peak scores good enough to win.
Key things to look for - players that take free kicks, corners and penalties, players that get a lot of possession and their team runs through them.
@Tom7471 I don't think the market does a good job of factoring in age at all - I think everyone thinks they won't be the one left holding at the end and can get out first on older players which of course everyone can't.
The way I look at age is through expected dividend yield. So on a younger player I'm fine with a 10% yield in divs but for someone over 30 I'm gonna want a 25-30% dividend yield maybe more if I think they only have a year or 2 left. So in simple terms the less time they have left in their career, the higher the dividend yield I would be wanting.
@Old-Man said in Should dividends be a %:
@RU99 please try to explain why not, just one reason would be good, thx.
And @janner73 a % of the players price e.g. 300 Pogba, current price £7. If dividend was 0.1% then youd receive 0.1% x £7 x 300 = £2.10.
I feared that was what you meant. There are a number of potential problems I see with that:
I think percentage CAN work if they are based on the size of the market, so as an example.
FOOTIE is between 100,000 and 150,000
PB is 6p,4p,2p (treble day, double day, single day)
FOOTIE is between 150,001 and 200,000
PB is 9p, 6p, 3p (treble day, double day, single day)
This would allow for dividends to rise and fall with the market without the need for FI to do a review, and would give everyone clarity as to when increases kick in.
@Pez Because it must be the players full FI name for articles to be credited.
I don't think we are anywhere near the bottom. We'll be lucky if there's any football played in the next 6 months in my opinion. I'm sure we'll see some nice positive announcements about completing the season by the end of June after the PL meeting tomorrow but I also think it's highly unlikely to come true.
The longer we go the tougher people's financial situations potentially become and the more boredom kicks in for many.
@NewUser198448 said in The end of football index? How’s it gonna recover?:
Will FI ever recover from this? Once this is over which could be weeks or months. Surely there will be better money to be made on the actual stock market.
This kind of utter shite is why I rarely come on the forum when the market isn't flying. Doom and gloom from the people who though they were here for easy money all the time but have no patience as soon as it's needed.
@Black-wolf Agree. This will get deleted simply because the Star has chosen to use Coronavirus: as a clickbait start to the headline. More and more headlines are doing this and the corner FI have backed themselves into in means they all get removed. If the Coronavirus was missing from the headline the article is still about the same thing but it would score points. Just seems absolutely ridiculous to me.
@Yellow I agree. They've just backed themselves into a corner.
The 2 biggest stories in the media today are likely to be VVD speaking out on Liverpool's title impact and Pogba launching a birthday Coronavirus appeal. Neither will win MB (or VVD sneaks 3rd place) which just seems stupid to me.
@TotalPunt You're not alone. The whole think has become too farcical. A few very simple rules around criminal activity and racism are all we need. Other than that let the media get on with it.
Many sites are now just using Coronavirus in virtually every football headline as it gets attention. There was nothing wring with the initial decision to not credit articles where a footballer became infected. To remove all articles with the word simply in the headline is removing too much genuine football news and completely unneccesary.
@Ddr The MB review has a lot to address. It will be a key point for the product as a whole - I have faith it will be a significant improvement, just frustrated we have to wait.
@Andy Its never that black and white tho. Is VVD talking about Liverpool possibly missing out on the title football related or Coronavirus related? Those get removed while Dalot making packed lunches for Bruno stand. That's certainly not the way I want MB to work.
@Ddr
VVD talking about potentially missing out on title - 0 pts
Dalot making packed lunches for Bruno - 60 pts or whatever it was.
Whoever we hold is that really the way we want the platform to work? It's a complete joke.
@MickTurbo This is where FI have made a mockery of MB. They are going to have to remove articles where VVD is talking about potentially missing out on the title simply cos Coronavirus is in the headline. I cant think of anything more football related right now but they've backed themselves into a corner with it.