No. Even though there's some short-term pain opening up MB to all was right for the index and for it's simplicity moving forward.
On another note, why shouldn't Lys Mousset be winning media today - he scored the winner in a 1-0 win against Arsenal and the should be the most talked about thing today and should get dividends. The bigger joke, if anything, is Pepe winning top forward in a 1-0 loss over Mousset who scored the decisive goal in the game but nobody has complained about that.
@ScouseSte It's all noise - I'd say to anyone pay no attention to the noise. By all means read different views and sit back and form your own judgement but don't listen to certain people just cos they shout the loudest.
It's sad to say but the forum has become about he who shouts loudest and a few egos taking over. Some very good traders with balanced views have been contributing less and less - I'm sure through becoming sick and tired of the way the forum has gone.
Everybody has an agenda but some are shouting louder and pushing more - the smartest traders don't need to shout non-stop, they quietly go about their business and don't feel the need to brag non-stop. Stay smart people, be aware of potential changes but draw your own conclusion - the most profitable trades can often be through doing the opposite to everyone else.
P.S. As for game winning goal it will never go imo. It is the equivalent of 0 on a roulette wheel and is FI's edge - they need that element of randomness to prevent things becoming too predictable.
@Londoner Not sure I agree. Why does the phrase Football Stockmarket translate to long-term trading for you? There are plenty of short-term traders in most markets who co-exist alongside long-term traders - and in most of those markets most long-term traders wouldn't be checking their portfolios every hour.
The difference here is people say they're long term-traders and the world is ending at the first sign of red - that isn't long-term trading. I see absolutely no reason why the two can't co-exist but long-term traders need to do just that and ignore the daily/weekly peaks and troughs.
If there was any money available for additional dividends then I would much rather see it allocated to PB than MB.
MB serves a purpose which is to provide good dividends on days when there is no football. On days where is football being played in a PB league then it is absolutely PB that should be the focus for dividends - and this is where I would channel any future increase. I would start by making a single, double and treble PB days be exactly that so 2p/1p on single day, 4p/2p on double day and 6p/3p on treble day for position/star man splits.
I've actually changed my view over the last few days. I was very much of the view that he was going this summer but I now believe it makes much more sense for all parties for a move to happen in 12 months time. These are my reasons for changing my view:
Gee! We’ve had 3 months of bonuses and now FI are giving away £5000 and people are disappointed.
Whilst to the bigger traders it will seem like little to the masses of smaller traders the amounts will be significant.
FI didn’t have to do anything since we’re all getting a nice bonus next week anyway so I commend them for the effort mate here
@ToffeeBlue Everyone looks at different things here. Personally the average is pretty much irrelevant to me as it isn't the average that will win PB but the high peak scores.
An average of 100 is pretty useless as far as im concerned if the player just has a load of scores between 90 and 110.
A perfect example on Footy Index Scout is TAA and Robertson.
Robertson has an overall average of 101 but has never won PB.
TAA has an overall average of 85 but has 6 PB wins.
Now look at their top 5 average and you will see why. TAA has a top 5 average of 217 and Robertson 178. Robertson is more consistent but never gets the peak scores good enough to win.
Key things to look for - players that take free kicks, corners and penalties, players that get a lot of possession and their team runs through them.
@Tom7471 I don't think the market does a good job of factoring in age at all - I think everyone thinks they won't be the one left holding at the end and can get out first on older players which of course everyone can't.
The way I look at age is through expected dividend yield. So on a younger player I'm fine with a 10% yield in divs but for someone over 30 I'm gonna want a 25-30% dividend yield maybe more if I think they only have a year or 2 left. So in simple terms the less time they have left in their career, the higher the dividend yield I would be wanting.
@Old-Man said in Should dividends be a %:
@RU99 please try to explain why not, just one reason would be good, thx.
And @janner73 a % of the players price e.g. 300 Pogba, current price £7. If dividend was 0.1% then youd receive 0.1% x £7 x 300 = £2.10.
I feared that was what you meant. There are a number of potential problems I see with that:
I think percentage CAN work if they are based on the size of the market, so as an example.
FOOTIE is between 100,000 and 150,000
PB is 6p,4p,2p (treble day, double day, single day)
FOOTIE is between 150,001 and 200,000
PB is 9p, 6p, 3p (treble day, double day, single day)
This would allow for dividends to rise and fall with the market without the need for FI to do a review, and would give everyone clarity as to when increases kick in.
@NallyCat said in Well done to those who held and believed:
I held, not impressed with some of the gloating/ribbing I've seen on people who didn't though.
Spot on! The constant need to be right or being better than someone else isn't needed. I believed it was right to hold but I said numerous times we all have different situations, different tolerance to risk and all have to make our own decisions based on our personal situation and assessments.
Anyone who wants to gloat should go join the twitter brigade and their constant bickering.
@Neil2265 But if you're trading medium to long term why are you even worried about a 9p drop because he didn't start one game. I hear so many people saying they are long-term trading and then talking about drops on a day or last week. If you're trading long-term then that 9p drop is nothing when you're planning to hold, presumably, until at least next summer for a big transfer.
It's not an easy mindsight but if you're holding Aouar until next summer then the price in between now and then is basically meaningless unless there's a fundamental change in circumstances.
It comes as no surprise that the people who missed them are up in arms. Releasing them at 10 am doesn't give equal chance either - those who work nights are sleeping, those who have a job and cant sit at a PC refreshing all day can't get on. But that's ok for those who can and make a killing. Random times, for me, is actually ok, it gives various groups of people opportunities each time there is an IPO release rather than the same group of people being at an advantage all the time.
I know I said earlier I stay out of these conversations but here's my view.
I wanted to remain in the EU - whilst not perfect in my view it was the lesser of 2 evils BUT I was not in the majority, we had a referendum and the vote was to leave.
Therefore we all have to accept that decision and work together to make the best of it whether it was what we wanted or not. Sitting and moaning about it will change nothing, we are leaving as that is what the majority of those that voted wanted so now we have to exit and get over all the division that now exists in the country.
I don’t post much in the forums cos of rubbish like this @Andy-M. A few days ago you posted asking why Pepe had fallen in case you had missed something.
Now @Hotspur posts a comment giving a potential reason for a drop in Coman and you have an issue with it?
I have seen comments slating Diaz, Rice and others from you. You’re fine slating others holds but as soon as someone posts anything even slightly negative about a player you hold you’re up in arms.
A forum is a place for different views and opinions but you seem unwilling to accept anyone else’s without throwing your toys out of the pram.
That’s my observations as a neutral who often would like to comment more but stays away because of petty reactions like this.
@NewUser198448 said in The end of football index? How’s it gonna recover?:
Will FI ever recover from this? Once this is over which could be weeks or months. Surely there will be better money to be made on the actual stock market.
This kind of utter shite is why I rarely come on the forum when the market isn't flying. Doom and gloom from the people who though they were here for easy money all the time but have no patience as soon as it's needed.
Can't see that @Vespasian32 did anything wrong. It was a trading decision on the assumption that others would buy. Isnt what this platform is about? Buy who you think others will buy before they buy? That's all he did. The fact he knew it was more than likely an error is irrelevant - he knew that others would act in this way.
If you're a long-term trader, these short-term reactions are irrelevant. If you're short-term trader then you accept that sometimes you get it right and sometimes you get it wrong and take the loss on the chin.
@Vespasian32 It's so subjective that's the problem. I really don't want to be sat on a Saturday night viewing endless debates on whether a cross was accurate or inaccurate and how OPTA have scored it wrong. FI needs to stay fun - the current matrix isn't perfect but it never will be.
People need to start playing the rules in front of them and not the rules they want it to be.
@NewUser159387 It isn't just about long-term users loving it. What do you think happens summer 2021 and summer 2022 if there's no MB. Huge amount of money leaves the market, there's nothing for people to keep their money in for. The long term holders just pull all their funds out for 2 months and the short-term traders flip transfer rumours in a zero-sum game.
The beauty of MB is it gives an opportunity to win 365 days a year - it's what makes FI unique. We have to trust them to make the necessary changes to fix the issues that everyone has but scrapping it would cause serious damage to the platform.
The very fact that KDB is no 41 on that list when it's generally accepted that he has been outstanding so far this season tells me to take absolutely zero notice of it.
Pulisic first zero PB
KDB 41st 14p PB
Enough said about how relevant it is to FI.