@D-man Yeah it's an excellent record so far, although Salford are a couple of steps lower than what he will face regularly. My point was that you said he had 2 in 20 minutes. I think he's a very good player and agree that he should eclipse Abraham, I think he's good enough that he doesn't need his stats padded!
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@Dalien-Smith Bamford is trash you cannot be serious he scored 9 goals last season. Eddie has 2 goals in 20 minutes of being a sub
@D-man I'm a big fan of Nketiah and hold a lot of him but it helps make your point a bit better if you don't just make things up. Nketaih came on yesterday but started against Salford and played 78 minutes, he hasn't been subbed on twice as you've mentioned a couple of times.
By all accounts Bielsa likes to get players up to speed with how his teams play before giving them a lot of game time so it isn't a concern that he hasn't played much as I never expected him to to start with. Two goals is a very good return so far and Bielsa has hinted that he may look to play both together so he obviously rates him very highly. Compare his price to other young English strikers and he certainly has plenty of room to grow still even if he does have a year in the Championship. It didn't do Abraham much harm.
That's not a one off, that is proof that the new Matrix suits how he plays.
It's a bit of both for me. He is undoubtedly suited to the new matrix as it rewards creative players much more but the Spurs game was a bit of a freak performance. He made nine key passes, attempted 18 crosses and completed seven of them which is mental. Key passes have seen a lot of points allocated and assists are now much more valuable, I've also always thought crossing was pretty cheap pb points.
Last season he averaged about 3.6 key passes per 90 minutes and around 10 crosses attempted with just under 2.5 completed. These are still exceptional stats but someway short of the Spurs performance. Against West Ham he made three key passes and attempted two crosses, neither successfully in 79 minutes in a game the dominated.
Not meaning to poop on anyone's parade and he is definitely the best player in the league in my opinion but I think people are getting carried away on the basis of one game. He will have other games where he excels and I'm sure he will win pb again this season, especially as more often than not he'll get the extra 18 for a win, but I think people buying based on a score like that being the norm will be disappointed. Doesn't really win mb either unfortunately, although if he stays fit all season then I can't see anyone stopping Man City and he will have a great shout at POTY so may pick up some buzz from that.
BUY from me, the new scoring system is built for Ronaldo. I think it will only enhance his PB He will be higher in 6 month and you will have a rake of dividends, Though time will tell.
Really? I don't think the new scoring system does him many favours really. He'll still get good scores through the amount of goals he gets, especially in the Champions League where there are fewer games and he typically shines, but overall it rewards creative players which isn't really what he's about.
It's absolutely made for Messi, who is probably both the best forward in the world and the best midfielder. His stats for key passes and big chances created were absolutely miles clear of anyone else in the league last season and assists he was joint top for assists as well as scoring over a goal a game and being a fantastic dribbler. An absolute machine.
RE: Joao Moutinho 4 Assists So Far This Season
Welcome to the Moutinho party Dan.
Since I mentioned Moutinho to you on the Henderson vs Neymar thread 6 days ago...
Neymar has dropped from £7.05 to £6.97
Henderson has dropped from 53p to 51p
Moutinho has risen from 47p to 54p
I think it's safe to say that Moutinho is better than Neymar AND Henderson.
Seriously though, he already had good PB last season and is a beneficiary of the PB changes. If Wolves qualify for Europa League then I'd expect his price to continue to rise. Although Neves scored a quality goal last night, he still only got a score of 92. Moutinho is the bigger PB scorer and the value pick in that Wolves side.
P.S. I look forward to your thread on Santi Cazorla's PB sometime on Friday evening.
Cazorla is absolutely class. He looks about 53 but he shits pb, got 215 in a draw at the weekend plus decent for IPD's as well at his current price.
RE: Tempted To Double Down On Bale
@Pagey74 they have to price it up as if he's staring or else they leave themselves vulnerable, it means nothing.
Brewster is fourth favourite in the first scorer betting for tomorrow behind Salah, Mane, Origi and Firmino and ahead of any Southampton player when it's doubtful he'll get a sniff of the pitch. Jesus is 4/1 in he Man City v Spurs game which is about half the odds of Kane. It'll almost certainly be Aguero who starts but if they price Jesus at 8/1 or higher then they leave themselves open, I wouldn't read anything into it.
RE: A 15p striker needs a thread of his own.
I just responded to a post about cheap players but I think this guy deserves a thread of his own.
Tim Kliendienst (Freiburg) I found this guy last night at 15p, Currently at 21p.
Positives :- He's a Striker. He's Young (23), He plays in a PB league. Signed a new contract till 2022. Played 22 games the season before last scoring 2 and assisting 3 at the age of 20.
Negatives:- Just came back from a terrible injury so won't play straight away. Not 15p anymore!!
Overall:- No stirker on the index who's young and plays in a PB league should be 15p. At 21p he's still a bargain imo. Freiburg must think highly of him to give him a new 3 year contract whilst out injured. Will take a while to get back playing after a serious injury. If he comes off the bench and assists or scores we all know his price will rocket. Definitely a long term hold.
My main thought is if he's 23 now, with a birthday in a fortnight, how the hell was he 20 two years ago? Has he been in some sort of twilight zone?
21p is certainly very cheap for a striker in a pb league. His goal record is pretty crap but if he can get back to playing then it'll only take a goal or assist for a decent jump as people buy for IPD's and then you can get out when they're getting in, I don;t think I'd be looking to hold long term. I also don't know how likely he is to play but he's so cheap that he's low risk, not one for me but if you can be bothered to keep an eye on the lineup every week etc then there could be profit there. I can't be bothered to hold out in the hope that someone with a pretty poor record who's coming back from injury suddenly gets game time and scores, while I'm free to keep an eye on it and sell at the right time.
RE: Henderson vs Neymar
To be clear, I'm not saying that all of a sudden, he's going to win PB every week, just that he's now more likely to win it than he was before. Remember, his price tag means he only needs to win it a couple of times per season for him to eclipse many of the more frequent winners in profits.
Again factually incorrect. As @Joev pointed out 881 players gained more from the matrix change than Henderson. So statistically he's actually LESS likely to win PB than he was before.
And as for the Champions League multiplier that applies to all the players who will be competing against on a CL night other than some random French league players if there's a re-arranged game.
It's not factually incorrect.
What Joev has done, is stated that he's now 822nd for all players... which makes him sound crap... except he's not contending with 822 players. He's contending with midfielders. Then, more specifically, he's contending with midfielders who are playing on the same day as him.
There are hundreds of midfielders, not just one or two. More often than not he will be competing against the best part of a hundred on any day, bar single game days which are few and far between. Also if he ever fancies winning star player then he will need to beat all other players.
Joev pointed out that he finished 13th for PB on Friday... here's why that's ridiculous. He finished 2nd in MB for midfield. Narrowly missing out on the dividends paid to first place.
Nope, he was third. He didn't narrowly miss out either, he was 43 points short of the best midfielder for the day, to say it was close is, once again, wilfully misleading. He could have got 25% more points and he still wouldn't have won.
It doesn't matter if there's 10 forwards ahead of him in PB... it matters if he can beat out the other midfielders. He beat the rest of the midfielders in his game.
Yes, he outscored the midfield of a team who got pumped 4-1 and will be at the wrong end of the table. He outscored Fabinho by a whopping one point so he wasn't head and shoulders above him. He had one other game to compete with which was another walkover and he was beaten by two of the three midfielders from the winning team.
And Liverpool... they are likely to hit the Champions League final again this season or semi's, so there'll be days where he's playing in the only match that matter because of the 25% bonus.
I don't think it's worth holding a player for seven or eight months just in case his team does well in Europe and he gets a couple of games with a bonus on a small game day. If another midfielder scores in that game they'll probably beat him. "The only match that matters because of the 25% bonus" is nonsense as well, if he had that on Friday he wouldn't have won either and a Champions League semi final is likely to be a bit tougher than Norwich at home.
RE: Henderson vs Neymar
@Dan-The-Man there are a lot of issues here, mostly created by typical cherry picking of stats to suit your argument. I just wanted to pick up on your claim that the pb changes suit Henderson, what exactly are you basing this on? The fact that he came 13th for pb on a day when there were only two games?
Indexgain do a great table that shows how players pb would have been improved last season if the current matrix was in place then, which is about the best comparison you can get. On average Henderson gains 12.67 points which puts him around 822nd for all players, and he isn't very good to start with. When you said "Traders are still adjusting to the PB changes which he was a beneficiary" did you just hope that no one would check this and just go along with it, accepting your weak argument or did you know this and just outright lie?