As a former Banker IMO the FI format is genius.
I understand that the high prices pre share split may put off new investors, but footballers at the absolute highest level only have a certain shelf life (Messi and Ronaldo excluded but its unlikely that we will see again, two of the greatest players ever, playing at the same time).
That means that the next Pogba is only around the corner and if you invest in that player early enough then the returns are exceptional.
So what I am trying to say is that this format due to turnover in the best footballers around at any current time means that it will be constantly refreshed due to the influx of the next big thing (CHO)and has an opportunity to become a huge player in the investment market as to my knowledge there is nothing around to compete at the moment.
The best way to succeed in any form of investment is to BUY LOW and SELL HIGH.
Not rocket science I know, but due to the unique nature of trading in footballers that have a short shelf life at the highest level the rewards should and will IMHO continue to exceed any other form of investment as long as you have done your research, know the market and invest wisely in a diverse porfollio (sorry banking background).
Anyone who disagrees should try to make serious money in the stockmarket, buying stocks that you have little/no knowledge of.
Anyway, good luck to all as I will be here for the long haul.
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RE: So who’s happy with FI still
As a former Banker IMO the FI format is genius.
RE: Pogba, Hold or sell
Sorry for starting this thread but its been great reading everyones thoughts on the CURRENT FI media king.
I am relatively new to this and asked the question as I feel he is too expensive for any significant capital appreciation.
I accept all of your comments in respect of MB but as I only hold a few shares in Pogba, I am not willing to invest heavily in a player with restricted capital appreciation.
I hold 60+ players and two thirds of them have increased in value more in percentage terms than when I purchased Pogba (at the SS) so for that reason and for my strategy Im OUT of the Pogba express train.
Good luck to all of you who are invested and I suspect that is most on this thread judging by the comments but IMO my cash will be spent on cheaper players with less risk of heavy depreciation and potential for growth.
RE: Gambling Problem
Wow, unbelievable honesty on this thread.
I have always enjoyed a bet, always on football, as its what I know most about.
I have always put an amount of money on an account at the start of the season and tried to build that up over the course of the season then at the end of the season w/d the balance and enjoy the profits (hopefully). If my account ever ran out of funds I would leave it till the following season and accept the loss. But since I started this about 20 years ago I only ran out of funds a couple of times and was up most seasons. That is only because I would just bet on individual games that I really fancied and almost always at short odds (4/7).
I see Football index as my football betting fix but at low risk (currently) I actually see it more as a bank account with an unbelievable rate of interest.
I know it will get harder to get a return but I think we have at least a season of unbelievable growth before it slows down.
Good luck to all as always and don't forget when the fun stops, STOP
Just a final point, when I own players on this index and they fall into the red, just have a look at the 12 month graph and see what price they were 12 months ago, then sit back and relax as IMO the growth of the index will bail you out 99% of the time.
RE: PB and MB means nothing anymore
As a relative newcomer to FI it seems obvious to me that the reason that the big boys are tanking is due to the price.
Why pay twice the money for a Pogba or Neymar when someone at half the price (roughly, or was) like Salah who has CL and PL games to play for with all the dividends and appreciation those games might bring whilst Pogba and Neymar have nothing in domestic competitions.
Also there seems to be a massive slant towards MB players on this forum which I understand if you are going to hold for a serious amount of time but is not relevant if you are constantly buying and selling.
That may change over the summer but currently the market agrees due to the price fluctuations.
If your are selling players regularly and the commission cost is (in total) close to or higher than your dividend income (in total) then you need to look at your strategy.
For me I have a long term view, keep reinvesting at players that seem good value and with potential, and have sold only players that I bought before I understood the platform.
FYI I only hold Kane Sterling and Salah in the top ten as I believe they have room for appreciation, the others in the top ten seem over priced IMO.
Love FI and have done better than I anticipated, if thats not the case for you then perhaps review your strategy.
Good luck everyone.
RE: Sub 40p players list
Bebou for me as well, got on at 29p now 40p and climbing whilst being out injured.
Certain TFR as Hanover will be relegated and clocked as the fastest player in the bundesliga.
Back in training and due back any game now.
Nominated for Rookie of the month twice before injury.
Apologies for pump but this can only go one way IMO
Bonus sell off - Hold, and stay calm.
The recent bonus has been paid (hopefully) and there seems to be plenty of investors selling to recoup funds.
FI have been very clever and there is now a 2 month 5% bonus which will lead to a new level of increases, so stay calm and consider buying more shares on players with potential for growth.
I would suggest only selling if you are unsure of the future growth.
The top 20 players seem to have depreciated the most which seems strange with the potential summer bonus on offer.
Good luck to all.
RE: Pogba, Hold or sell
The main reason for starting this thread is because not that long ago Rooney, Ibrahimavich and Sanchez were the media king darlings and where are they now?
Also, I am not convinced about Pogba as a player and at his current price seems higher risk than players that are currently performing but at a much lower price, with the potential downside.
Only my opinion.
RE: Who to buy - spending is so hard!
@Kelly18 Hi kelly, not sure that you can go wrong with Loftus Cheek, getting back to his pre injury price.
Safe buy with Lamps likely to be the new manager, plenty of game time and a summer Euros to look forward to if you are in it for the long haul.
Due back around September.
There are probably better choices for quick returns but Loftus Cheek should be a safe hold given his potential and the transfer ban.
RE: Gambling Problem
Don't get me wrong it infuriates me FI doesn't follow the logics of football a lot of the time the best players are the ones that are cheapest and don't make any money but as you learn the market and watch the trends you can build and make a good portfolio.
Your right Kelly, but if FI investors only followed the best footballers, we would all hold the same players.
The concept is genius IMO as there will always be players joining the index which will make investors switch to new players and sell the historical high flyers.
That is why the market can be volatile and as long as you are on the players that are rising then the rewards can be considerable.
RE: Nicolas Pepe
Just read the article, seems to be lacking in detail, just mentions a bid being placed, nothing else at the moment.
The Liverpool Echo is usually a very reliable source of transfer speculation, but I suspect Liverpool may be offering a lower bid than Lille will accept as a way to attract the player to Liverpool as they have just won the Champions League, rather than pay the sort of fee that Lille are likely to be looking for.
That said Lille have stated publicly that Pepe will leave this summer so it's the start of what may be a prolonged transfer saga for one of the brightest young footballers in the world.
RE: Port Taking A Kicking
Your portfolio as you say is 80% full of top 10 players and if you look at the performance of the top 10 on this web site
It shows that the prices are lower than they were at the end of March (on average)
This mainly due to the shift towards the lower priced players on the index that have much more room to appreciate.
All I would say is to have a look at your players and ask yourself, can these players increase in value against the players around them, if not then consider selling.
That said, as the new season gets closer then its likely that these players (top 10) will almost certainly start to move.
I hold Salah, Sterling, Mbappe, Kane and Rashford in the top 10 as I feel that they still have room to appreciate (IMO) the others I'm not so sure but its your call.
PATIENCE, is the key here as most portfolios will have stagnated in recent weeks due to a number of factors.
Good luck but remember why you bought the players in the first place
RE: Sub £1-00 players with potential
Thanks to Lualua for the links to other similar threads
Sub 20p player list
RE: Ruben Vinagre World Cup
@Andy-M I agree, give the guy a break. If Wolves continue to improve then all the players mentioned should see strong consistent growth.
They will need to bring in a couple of new players that can hit the ground running as we have all seen what happens to teams that qualify for the Europa league with an under strength squad (Burnley last season).
I hold Neves, Jota, Gibbs White and Vinagre and my guess is that Vinagre has the most room to grow in %terms as his price is still relatively low. (72p)
So yes, all points raised on these players are valid (both positive and negative) and time will tell IF the young Wolves players with potential can actually step it up again now they are in the big time.
RE: Mathieu Cafaro
He's the right age (22) in a position that FI investors love, attacking midfielder.
But, his stats are average at best and his player rating on whoscored.com is only 6.75, from 23 appearances, nearly half from the bench.
Playing in an unfashionable team in the French league, and can't cement a place in the starting 11.
Not enough for me I'm afraid but good luck if you have invested
RE: Divedends do NOT drive the market in any way, shape or form.
This is a great debate and its something that I have been considering for some time.
I can only comment on my position since investing serious money in March.
I hold four of the top 10 priced players and hold for Capital Appreciation.
I have a diverse port and hold currently 62 players, based on youth, Transfer Speculation and potential for CA.
Players that I hold include Grealish, Mctominay, Sessegnon, Tielemans, B. Silva, Sterling, Zaha all of which have appreciated significantly more than any dividend income and CA could have generated from even most of the 10 most expensive players
For me its clear, I purchase all players for Cap App and any dividend income is a bonus.
I will not consider buying a Pogba or a Neymar for Dividend income as the cost to buy the player in the first place creates a risk/reward ratio that is too high.
That said if you got on these players at a good price then they are a definite hold while they are earning Dividend income.
Also the way Ronaldo has tanked and the way the list of top 10 players changes ( have a look at the index 18-24 mths ago) means that to buy expensive players for dividend income simply does not stack up IMO.
There are many ways to earn profit on this platform and I am happy with my "lower risk" approach as its working for me.
Good luck to everyone.