1 year anniversary today. Love super sunday but hold no City or West Ham players and am therefore happy that the game is off as it increases my PB chances elsewhere. That's a measure of how much FI becomes part of your life.

Made plenty of cash, should have been plenty more but I reckon I can make miles more in the next 365 days than I have in the last. Mainly by not being as rash or slap dash, understanding the reasons for dips, foreseeing rises and harvesting dividends.

Enjoyed the crack and the discussion on the forum 99% of the time. Recieved loads of great advice, hopefully given some out as well, and cultivated a fondness and respect for all of you lot. We all see things slightly differently but all want the best for ourselves, the platform and I'm sure for each other.

Can barely hazard a guess at where FI and all our ports will be this time next year but I think we'll all be doing brilliantly. Onwards and upwards

@Millerman said in How has the ME changed your portfolio?:

very few people market buy anymore

I just couldnt scroll past this. The ticker is flying, spikes are massive. Those very few people doing all the market buying must have some fuckin huge and unbelievably diverse portfolios.

It seems like its fashionable to just slate the product and the management at the minute. People are queueing up to spread panic and doom, and some of them, not necessarily Miller, but others, I'm sure think they're doing it in ways that are ever so subtle, but simply put, they need to work on their subtlety.

The Footie has been up every day and up BIG. If very few ppl are market buying then how come players previous peaks are being smashed? How come the blindingly obvious BL trend happened, and happened big? How come the blindingly obvious EPL trend happened and is happening big? How come the most blindingly obvious Serie A players are starting to move?

Take Dybala, about the time of the ME he was sat at almost his all time peak of about £3.54. The only time he came close to that was in about August, so unless people think theres been a sell queue on him for 10 months, then his subsequent rise off the back of ME has been solely market buys, with no de listing. Hes up 40p since ME, with an average buy price of £3.75, and probably a minimum 700 delta. So theres a net 105k gone into him in 10 days or so, but yeh, very few ppl are market buying.

Anyway, I digress. How come the blindingly obvious la liga trend is starting?

How come youth players with thus far limited playing time are blowing previous peaks out of the water? Ya know, Foden, Greenwood, Saka, Martinelli, Elliott, Tonali, Kulusevski, Zaniolo, Camavinga, Almada? It's not unlisting. It's not ME? So it must be market buying. And why these players in particular? As well as the likes of Sancho, Rash and Mbappe being at all time highs? Then there's TAA, EBH, Havertz, Odegaard, Ferran Torres who have all hit all time highs recently.

These few market buying, super diverse whales seem to have great faith in the product. Hmmm. I think I'll go with them rather than a dozen or less naysayers on the forum.

I wonder what the other 600,000+ users who have obviously had absolutely no part in all these rises recently think 🤔

Grego called it. Vesp isnt stupid, he will of known he'd end up banned the way he was going, just as he knew his ground bait would get a nibble from somebody so he could then flip it and say 'u brought up FS, you're obsessed/panicced'. I wish ppl hadn't played into his hands but it was always gonna happen. Again, hes not daft. Now hes got some kind of martyr status, and of course hes still got at least 1 person on here under his thrall, to do his bidding like Renfield from the Dracula films. Thd whole thing has been as clear as day, and was obvious to most but the whole campaign, and that is the correct word, has been designed to manipulate. They've behaved like a bunch of self serving dick heads and now his ventriloquist dummy is still spouting the absolute bull shit that he was just responding/defending him self. Have a fuckin day off mate, anyone who's anyone has seen through the whole thing from the word go, you obviously all think your ever so clever but most of u have just been puppets for the would be mastermind, promoting his flawed plot. You shouldn't be still banging his drum, you should be embarrassed because you've been had on a string by vesp and everybody but you can see it, you're a clown

@johnboywalker I agree. You've got ppl like black wolf who has tried and tried and tried with certain people to help and to advise.

It just so happens that hes also one of the most clued up on OBs and had probably more insight than anyone on here as to how the ME would function.

But he was fucking raging after what we can now call the 'interim div review announcement', and whilst he was one of the biggest voices for calm throughout much of the recent panic, he made absolutely no secret that he thought the review was absolutely shite. That's somebody who just calls it as he sees it.

Myself, and I can probably speak for you in this sense, counselled that people refrain from any knee jerk reactions because we had faith in FI to get it right in the end. My view on it all was that pre-COVID, my port was flying therefore, after significant dips, the old div structure still had significant legs in it, therefore, whilst I wasnt shouting from the roof tops that the interim structure was spectacular, I did have faith that if people could just be more level headed about things, then that moderate increase could have at least kept things ticking over whilst FI navigated some extremely choppy waters, which is essentially what has happened.

The supposed revolutionaries who would have people believe they have been the drivers of this change, are anything but. They havent been objective and they havent been selfless. They have tried their damndest to tug at peoples insecurities.

I'm deliberately not tagging anybody here because I dont want to drag ppl into an argument. I have absolutely no appetite for one myself, but I could name somebody like Geronimo. That's a man who has voiced concerns in a fair, honest, insightful and selfless way in recent times, and that's a man who could perhaps claim some credit, if indeed the forum has been a driver for change.

There are those who have seen it all before and had faith, there are those of us who have felt the need to point out the cock ups of FI in a fair way, there are those of us who have had a very clear agenda to cause panic and migration, and there are a much bigger pool of people who have probably in many cases been very confused or very panicked or both.

I know what my motivations have been throughout all of the turmoil, and I know which camps everybody else has fallen into, and that's all that needs to be said. Hopefully people will think for themselves rather than being told what to think

@johnboywalker marvellous sentiment. You've hit the nail. I believe still, more than that I'm excited, but at the same time I make absolutely no bones that I'm weary of it all. It's been a hell of an 8 months. We cant blame the FI brain trust for all of it, we can commend them for some of it and without a shadow of a doubt we can criticize them for aspects of it.

Bottom line, we are where we are at this moment. Nerves are frought, resolve has been tested more than once. I think it will be tested again but I just cannot over state how massive NASDAQ is. My biggest criticism of FI is that they are not coming out now and saying 'we will have NASDAQ implemented by 'x' date. It would go such a long way.

I've said on multiple occasions that I cant speak with much authority on order books, but there was a time when I couldnt drive, there was a time when I couldnt read or write. I've educated my self and I have been educated by @Black-Wolf, and I know that this is a big development, but needs NASDAQ, which is coming.

I've seen ppl talking about selling up and leaving and I've tried to re-assure in my own way as have all those john mentions. We arent the only ones, not by any stretch, but we have been persistent. In this company, I am pretty green. A year ago we saw dark days, and I was bricking it. Ppl like john and eric kept telling me sit tight, have faith. I knew these lads meant well, but I was green and I jumped. The next day FI stepped in and I couldnt believe how badly I'd timed it. I took stock and I went again. Until COVID came along I was fuckin smashing it, since then it's been blow after blow and it's been tough

Weve all clung on and took steps that weve seen fit. Now is the time to have faith. Dont make the mistakes I made a year ago. I certainly will not be. Were all in it together and we'll come out the other side

@Vespasian32 of course theres always a thread when div payments are fucked up, but when somebody has an agenda, as it's become very obvious that you do, then any pushing of that agenda, which the thread title is, whether you admit it or not, will be met with frustration from some, and just boredom from others. You'll understand this as you were often a ring leader in decrying similar behaviour from Eric, albeit with a different agenda.

Not that long ago you would have made the complaint that you want your divs now, and things like this affect re-investment strategy. Perfectly valid. You would not, I dont think, have reacted the way you have. You are free to do what you are doing, but dont be shocked when people quickly become bored of u and stop paying attention. I dont suppose you'll care about that, but i know you're intelligent enough to understand why people will become cynical when they see you kicking FI at every opportunity. Their perceptions of what your motivations are have changed

It seems to me that too many ppl view FI comms as a security blanket.

Port dropping.....AC not on hand to read me a bedtime story......clearly hes happy to let the index burn whilst drinking Pina Colada direct from a Balinese maidens unmentionables.

Comms come out....ahhh of course he cares.....he wants to reach 1bn market cap remember....alls well with the world

Like a 15 year old boy who's just sent some girl a dick pic...40 seconds and she hasnt replied....she doesnt like me....I'm hung like a hamster....this is terrible

Receives one of these from the girl 😘....I'm well in there just call me shagger

@King-Fergus

Fuck off you cunt

I think the way he has conducted himself is indefensible and his opinions completely littered with holes, but at this point I dont think theres anything that can be said to him or his mate, that has not already been said. For that reason, if anybody sees me wade in again in any way, then feel free to pull me about it and I'll hold my hands up, I think everybody needs to do the same because its just completely futile.

We saw the same thing 3 months ago when the only players worth anything, or tradeable, were the MB players and there was outrage cos the spreads were so severe on others and IS disabled.

COVID was FI's fault. Their correct and vindicated decision to protect the market and all of us by stopping IS was them 'shafting' traders. I recall things became so heated that everyones favourite pantomime villain @Ericali (remember when he was the bad guy 😂) was actually invited to discuss matters in a pub car park somewhere in the Midlands by a fellow trader at one stage.

Ok this current gripe is of FI's own making, where the previous one was in reaction to COVID. But then like now, those who saw the blindingly obvious and acted on it are doing well again.

Those PB holds that were fucked in March and April have ALL had their time in the sun since the re-start. Those who were screaming blue murder will have either taken the opportunity to sell, or continued to hold as the players were valuable again.

It was a cycle. This is a cycle. Some react, some dont. Those who do will pretty much always be upwardly mobile. Those who dont, will have periods of stagnation and periods of profitability with the over-arching trend being upwards.

Either is fine, but if you choose not to act; and it is a choice because these things tend to be blindingly obvious; then you need to be prepared to sit on your hands in the stagnant moments.

Alison is never gonna be the king of the index. The most high profile will reach maybe £4-£5, the rest will settle at £1.50-£2.50, and then suddenly Kimmich and Trent will look insane value. Theyll probably hit £7 and £13 respectively, this will then filter down to Goretzka and Halstenberg, then Pogba will look insane value.

Just chill out man, you're all traders, Christ

@Silver

Insomnia strikes again, if listing this lot doesnt help I dunno what will.

Reguilon, Son, Cancelo, Jesus, Sof Diop, Dubois,
Kimpembe, Neymar, Pavard, Kimmich, Gnabry, Arnold, Caputo, Donnarumma, Diaz, Fab Ruiz, Lo Pell, De Ligt, Kulusevski, Dybala, Lenglet, Estupinan, Kubo, Alcacer

One or two possibly unavailable, maybe the 2 City boys, but probably the most PB involvement I've ever had in a single day. The vast majority are IPD eligible as well so if luck is on my side it could be a huge day. Theres a few there who I particularly fancy for PB, and if Leo doesnt turn in a masterclass, I feel like I've got a huge chance of top FWD at least

@Martyn-B check ya inbox mate

@Martyn-B I was gonna message u earlier on about a refresh mate

@Martyn-B said in Rolling matchday thread:

Fuck me!! At work, boss keeping a beady eye on me as I try and keep track of the Real Madrid score. Worth it though, best day, actually best week already (day 2) for dividends.

£451.20 IPD's (Ramos, Hateboer, Gomez, De Roon and Poulsen) and £182 PB. Total of £633.20. This is over a 1.5% return on my 40k net deposits in a single day. Also within touching distance of 10k dividends total in just under 18 months. Ponzi my arse!!

Did u never get at Demirbay mate? I know u were wanting to at one stage

@ScouseSte lol, I didnt mean me mate I dont hold. I'd normally say that being in paper red doesnt matter cos your entry fee to the bet is unchanged and it's purely to extract the 20p, but youd be losing the 14p PB + commission so youd basically be making 2.8pps, probs just sit tight

@ScouseSte perhaps you can find solace with a fellow holder going through similar anguish 😉

@Metropolis I was only 3 weeks out 👍

Mega bout of insomnia so heres a 05:30 fixture list.

Only a smattering for me today but a couple of my favourite holds in action. Aouchiche, Rongier, Oukidjia, Demirbay, Martín, D'ambrosio, Hakimi, Pulgar.

@ocs123 said in Rolling matchday thread:

I thought Eibar were scheduled to play tonight, did their game get moved?

No friday or monday La Liga fixtures until something like 23/10. If I can find the link I'll post it.

Might of actually seen it in @Metropolis rolling thread which gets nowhere near the recognition if deserves

@Dr-Jan-Itor yeh like Sav says, I rate Max Wober. 22 year old centre half at Salzburg. Linked to Lyon but could easily see him at Leipzig if they lose Upamecano. Hes 22, about 6'3" and a shoe in for the Euros. CBs are a great div option cos they're currently cheap in general, but will surely be brought back into the game next summer if the matrix is tweaked