@Neil-S

Ronaldo = is a boss and the rape story had killed his price, hence the high yield. He is 34 how long can help keep going.
Alexis Sanchez highest paid player in the prem, playing shit with transfer spec. Dividends could nose dive if he goes to inter as the story with be done.
Ozil = 60% return ??? Really not to sure why. Anyone that can help?
Salah - Liverpools best player?? Great league run and UCL winners run. Could maybe do something similar, if not transfer spec could start this season.
Lukaku = Manchester United player that had transfer spec. That has ended now, would expect low dividends this season
Hazard = great player and had transfer spec. That has ended now, would expect low dividends this season

@Black-wolf I said it before. I remember late 2017 early 2018. There would be about 10 posts a day. That's posts not threads. Shows how much FI is growing and the forums is second to twitter for FI related chat.

@Ralph-Wiggum @kaka8 Adam Cole ruled that out long ago. The rulers in Football Towers don't like the idea of tiered PB because they feel it would take away the "skill" of picking a winner.

@dannypea is right with the splits, but it worth adding there wasn't PB at the time on the first split, just MB at 20p for a MB winner. So adding PB rocketed the prices. Then after the last split they increased the dividends. Between all this the added IPDs. So FI are always giving us more dividends and more ways to win. Added PB, added IPDs and then increasing pay outs. All in the space of 3 years. So not to bad.

I think the next "increase" will be in the way of a new win mechanic, like IPDs but something different, but still with that random "yes I won". I think FI are looking at ways to attract the more causal instant win punter.

@WithoutLimit @Noirx4 Did analysis on the leagues PB win amounts over a year ago, there were more winners from the prem than any other league.

The key from Matts Stats

Matt’s Stats
Welcome to Matt’s Stats from myfootballindex.com (coming soon)
Introducing…The FI 200, FI 200X and the FI 1600
I think we can all agree that the FOOTIE is a somewhat confusing and arbitrary number that doesn’t provide the daily benchmark that us Traders require to get a good indication of how we are performing relative to the market.
The primary aim of Matt’s Stats is to provide those benchmarks, along with some other interesting numbers.
• The Football Index 200 (FI 200) provides a way of gauging the performance of the top 200 players on the index by value – generally the most actively traded players. Think of this as the FTSE 100 of the FI world
• The Football Index “Next” 200 (FI 200X) consist of the next most valuable 200 players (ranked 201-400) where there is still a high-level of trading action but often moves differently to the FI 200. This style can be compared to the FTSE 250
• The Football Index 1600 (FI 1600) contains the top 1600 players. This includes all players in the FI 200 & FI 200X along with 1200 others (players ranked 1 – 1600). Whilst some of these players are traded less actively it provides a much wider scope of market performance
Whilst these 3 measures will provide the core of indicators of activity on Football Index I have also created various other price-ranked indices:
• FI 25, FI 50, FI 100, FI 200, FI 400, FI 800, FI 1600, FI ALL – Each of these simply contains the number of players indicated by the number (ie. FI 800 contains players 1-800 ranked by price)
• FI 25X, FI 50X, FI 100X, FI 200X, FI 400X, FI 800X, FI ALLX – These are specified segments of the market (i.e. FI 100X is the ‘next’ 100 players...consisting of players 101-200 ranked by price, the FI 400X is players 401-800 etc.)
The value of each index is not fundamentally important. The focus will be on the % change over a set period – namely 24 hours, 1 week, 1 month, 3 months, 6 months and 1 year. For those interested, they do not start at a standard figure (i.e. 1000). They represent the mean average price of players in the specified range stipulated, in pence (i.e. If the FI 200X is at 170.0 then the average player in this range is currently worth £1.70.
Whilst building the systems for these, I became unusually creative and realised I could segment the market in many interesting ways to provide real insight into which areas are moving the most. Some numbers are more useful than others whilst some are just a bit of fun!
Age Group – Top 50 & Top 250:
• Young: age 21 and younger (YNG 50, YNG 250)
• Middle: age 22 to 25 (MD 50, MD 250)
• Prime: aged 26 to 29 (PRM 50, PRM 250)
• Older: age 30 and above (OLD 50, OLD 250)
Leagues – Top 50 & Top 250:
• La Liga (LL 50, LL 250)
• Premier League (EPL 50, EPL 250)
• Serie A (SA50, SA250)
• Ligue 1 (L1 50, L1 250)
• Bundesliga (BL 50, BL 250)
• Other (OTH 50, OTH 250)
Positions - Top 50 & Top 250:
• Goalkeeper (GK 50, GK 250)
• Defender (DEF 50, DEF 250)
• Midfielder (MID 50, MID 250)
• Forward (FWD 50, FWD 250)
FOOTIE – Supposedly based on value of all players on the Index.
Wonderkids (WK40) is a static benchmark. It is a fixed list of 40 players that are 21 & under (as of Aug 2018) and have the highest potential ability on Football Manager 2019 (as of Oct 2018) . See full list in notes below.
Notes:

1. Leagues, Positions & Age Groups are the ‘top 50’ and ‘top 250’ so by definition the top 250 includes the top 50.
2. Note: FI ALL (consist of every player on the Index) and FI ALLX (players 1601 and onwards) don’t have a constant number of players since player numbers change (normally upwards due to IPOs but sometimes downwards). They will not be used as a primary benchmark as too many of the players in these ranges are never traded.
3. The data is new and cannot be backdated so at the moment I only show price change percentages in the short term but eventually 1 / 3 / 6 / 12 months will become populated.
4. WK40 players are:
   a. Gianluigi Donnarumma, Alban Lafont, Matthijs de Ligt, Filip Benkovic, Dayot Upamecano, Eder Militao, Theo Hernandez, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Diogo Dalot, Felix Passlack, Amadou Diawara, Arne Maier, Sergio Gomez, Lucas Paqueta, Houssem Aouar, Gedson Fernandes, Renato Sanches, Rodrygo, Vinicius Junior, Paulinho, Josip Brekalo, Federico Chiesa, Ferran Torres, Cengiz Under, Tahith Chong, Leon Bailey, Christian Pulisic, Joao Felix, Kai Havertz, Phil Foden, Pietro Pellegri, Amine Gouiri, Jann-Fiete Arp, Lautaro Martinez, Abel Ruiz, Juan Camilo Hernandez, Luka Jovic, Willem Geubbels, Moise Kean

@Black-wolf Very good point. Over the last 3 years we must have on boarded most the football mad customers that watch every league and big match and FI would have been very appealing to them, hence we joined early. I pick my weekend matches based on what games are the biggest and best from any of the top 5 leagues, where as the customers we will on board now will be more casual and probably couldn't name 20 foreign league players to win a bet.

@Dan-The-Man I can't remember the game. I was watching a game on my PC that has 3 screen. I had FI already open and by the time I turned my head and typed the name of the scorer he was up 5/6p in a matter of 2 seconds. I know watching on the SkySports app has a small delay compared to live TV, but people must to watching and hovering over the buy button.

@Zidave If people are trying to get in early and sell to the late comers. Margins are very thin after commission, if you can even pull it off regularly.

@Zidave The goal scoring spike right now are unprecedented. IPD made a difference, but what we are seeing now is on another level again.

I think it would be interesting to start a discussion on the overall market. Trends, predictions, thoughts ect.

I'll start.

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Will be interesting once Matt has a years worth of data.

Comparing the 6 month data. We can see the Top 50 is slowing down in growth and the Top 200 is staying about the same. The growth area seems to be in the 200 - 800 ranked players.

A lot of us know FI works in cycles, and once one area becomes over cooked and value starts to appear in other areas the market moves to that, til the next one comes around.

Where do you see the market heading over the next 3 month, 6 month, 3 years, 10 years?

@Matt-FI Any chance we could have a look at the data with a extra column for the max amount of data you currently have. eg 7 day/ 1 month/3 month/6 month/ 10 month. Think that would be right. First ever Matt's Stats email on 08 October 2018 14:39.

ps You still need to add a donate link to your emails so I can buy you a drink :)

@Dan-The-Man If not expecting any keep of crash either, I'll carry on building my portfolio for the foreseeable future. It all comes down to my personal risk tolerance and my dividend players are part of my safety net, where if a crash did happen and I missed getting out. At least I still hold a high yield investment.

@Dan-The-Man said in For any new traders out there just buy pogba:

FI kind of crashed a few months back. All the top 10 players dropped.

I was more talking about a catastrophic market wide crash.

I'll start a new thread tonight, about the market as a whole. instead of debating player X against player Y over and over. Should make for a more interesting and less frustrating chat for all involved.