I have felt for a while that the top end was overpriced with players over £10. Looking at current prices it feels like they are now much more realistic. There is also some real value appearing at the lower end of the market now that prices have dropped a little. Feels like now is a good time to buy!

Some examples:
Sancho (£3.06 return in 12 months but £2.90 from MB) - His MB is unlikely to be the same in the next 12 months. £8.50 feels right
Bruno - (£2.76 return). Feels like great value at £7 (I've been topping up!)
Kimmich - (£1.06 return) PB King. Good value at £6
Harry Kane (£1.48 return) - £5 is great value
Neymar - (£1.88 return) Super solid. £7.50 feels right
Timo Werner (£1.28 return). Bargain at £3.80

There are some that still look out of place though:
Mbappe (16p return) - Still massively overpriced at £8.16
Erling Braut Haaland - (£0.31 return). Still overpriced at £5
Greenwood (14p return) - £5 still too much

Some mega value lower down:
Kingsley Coman (46p return) - £1.80
Max Arnold (40p) - £1.15
Hakan Çalhanoğlu (66p) - £2.22

I don't know about you but I'm excited right now at the prospect of how much money is to made at these prices, let alone once Cap Appreciation kicks in on the back of Order Books

I've done some work on this today. Looking at the top 5 (Pogba, Sancho, Neymar, Mbappe and Stirling). If you assumed they all had an FI value of £7.00 for the next 12 months and provided the same level of dividends (MB and PB) that they did in the last 12 months you would get the following:
Pogba = 43% return
Sancho = 1% return
Neymar = 33% return
Mbappe = 4% return
Sterling = 8% return

given 4 or the 5 are low risk in terms of the Index value (Sancho bubble?)...it's clear where to put your money if you're after mid to long term returns.

Whilst I'm at it....it's worth looking at these from a dividend return perspective over the last 12 months (based on current FI value):

Ronaldo = 78% return
Alexis Sanchez = 71% return
Ozil = 60% return
Salah - 31% return
Lukaku = 35% return
Hazard = 35% return

Tonight's game has convinced me that Robertson is the right hold...bye byeTrent!

@Millerman I cant see that they can suspend any accounts. No one has done anything wrong....immoral yes, but all within the rules of the Index. If some unscrupulous traders want to drive market prices down by low balling sell offers then they can do. It's the rules that need change.

@ScouseSte I'll raise a glass to that! FI has always been a fun way of investing and will continue to be so in the future. Patience and consideration always been key and nothing has changed from that perspective. The rules have changed, trends are changing, opinions are changing but the underlying principle of the platform remains the same. FI shouldn't be about quick wins, chasing losses or FOMO. Success on the platform comes from patience and consideration. Onwards and upwards!

Scared to press refresh! Down, down, down!

Paulo Ghiglione 56p. 22 year old Italian winger plays for Genoa. Lots of interest in him at the mo. He's down as a defender on FI but plays as a winger. Had a cracking pre season 2 goals 1 assist and has 2 assists in his first 2 league games. Can see his value soaring this year. If there was one player in my port to keep, it'd be him....

I joined before the split and got burned on the craziness that followed in the few hours afterwards. It took a couple of months to recover. Key things I've learned since:

1. Dont panic buy / sell
2. Research players before buying
3. Plan your exit price for a player when you buy him - If you want to make 20% on player, stick with that and sell when you've reached your goal
4. Is the player good value? Avoid players you think are overpriced (e.g. imo Greenwood, Sancho), find players that are under priced.
5. Attacking, young players will attract better rises
6. Structure your portfolio to have a good mix of dividend winners (e.g. Pogba, Neymar), safe bets (e.g. Stirling, Kane), high potential (e.g. Ghiglione, Ganago)
7. Enjoy it!

@Nikitz71 . Ghiglione also scored and bagged a couple of assists in pre-season. He's a great buy. Also, he plays as a winger but FI have him down as a right back. Bargain!

I tend to agree there is more value lower down. There are plenty of players from 50p to £2 who represent greater growth potential despite not necessarily picking up the same dividend returns of the likes of Pogba and Naymar. Whilst the Index exponentially grows, surely the smart investment is in FI growth rather than dividend returns?

@Frank-Mole-Pepys I agree with this, but would argue that the people trading in this way at the moment are switched on and have knowledge and insight as to how the platform works and are comfortable trading in this way. However, there are a significant population of less confident traders on the platform that are very uncomfortable at the moment and just happy to get out. Time will tell, but I'm thinking things will look better in a few weeks time

Its a game of patience at the moment. Lots of people have been trying to get out for a while and they now have the opportunity to do so. There are investors out there happy to buy them out at super low prices. Once the people have got out that want to get out and people have off-loaded their dead wood, then we should see some equilibrium of buying and selling and we should see true value of players start to appear. It'll take time. Meanwhile, port value doesn't matter unless you're selling up

Having now had these preference options for the last day and half, I found myself using them for different purposes, and there is value in switching between them depending on what info you are interested in.

If you are interested in selling in the immediate term then Mid Price is the best view to be checking. This gives you the situation right now with Offers and Bids and is best indication of the value of your Port at this point in time.

If you are interested in seeing what value other holders have in the players in your Port then Average All Offers gives you the best insight. I've been using this to compare my valuation of players against the market to help me understand where my ideal exit point for individual players should be.

90 day average in a more stable market than the current one would give some good insight as to what you can reasonably sell for in the short to medium term - only useful in stable market though.

Buy now as a Port view has limited value imo. In the current FI the only time Buy Now will be used is with Match Day IPD chasers. As a Port View I don't think its adding much but is probably the one a lot of people understand best as it is the legacy Port value view.

All interesting tools, but also doesn't help give any clarity as to how much my Port is actually worth! Personally, for the day to day, I'm gonna stick with Mid Point.

At the end of the day the value of your Port is only known when you actually sell it, up until then it's what you value it on based on your expected returns from your players and your exit strategy.

Michael Keane. 2 PBs this season and you can pick him up for 25p

I'm on Mid Price too. Had previous stuck with Buy Price as up until recently you could still sell at Buy Price if you were patient. Not the case any more. As such the most realistic value of your port is Mid Price. Today's a good day take the mental hit in perceived port value and re-benchmark

@NewUser207232 I bought kimmich today....price too good to ignore. And also bought some Michael Keane at 25p weirdly!

@Timmy Good to get a different view point. My model anticipates you sell the player in 3 years and that you need to estimate what that is (primarily based on age and as such future potential div earnings). As such you don't need to recover his full value in divs alone. Using this philosophy it doesn't value older players that high. Highest value players in the model tend to be aged 22-25.

Totally agree that there is a big risk with assuming what you can sell a player for in 3 years (given we've no idea what we will be able to sell players for in 3 days right now!).

I like the fact that you aim to recover the full value of the player through divs and as such don't need to worry about resale values. I may try and add a holding time to my model and see if I can find more value / less risk.

Agree with your analysis of Sancho. His MB primarily dictates his value and that MB could significantly change over the next 3 years. I don't hold him on that basis. I think that whilst we can come up with values based on some sort of maths, there has to be an element of common sense and consideration of player circumstances factored in before buying

@ocs123 agreed....but at his current price I don't see him as good value...or at least there are plenty of other players that are better value

@SDOAFIT Youngsters are tricky because they can get very valuable very quickly (like Sancho did) or can be a flash in the pan and disappear. As such, I've been conservative on their div factors and value factor.

@Ikusitaikasi I thought about adding a factor for the competitions the players play in, but the players divs reflect the fact they are in these competitions so it's already covered.

Agreed that trying to estimate a players value 3 years in the future is almost non-sensicle at the moment, but somehow it has to be factored in because the player will have a price when you sell him. I've been pretty conservative in how this is calculated and haven't factored that any player, independent of age, will be worth more than they are today - this should build in some contingency.