Why not half of each?
Posts made by Ozzlebert
RE: Another Noob Question
@NewUser156786 it's like comparing job which has a low pay but lots of performance based add on's (capital growth) Vs a job with a salary (dividends).
If you back yourself to get the right players early then capital growth can beat any amount t of dividends earned.
If not then dividends bring home a steady income without to much effort or upkeep. Also you lose a lot less to comission as you don't need to sell to release profit
Most people have a balance of the two.
Why not pick a couple of players from each camp and see what you enjoy more and what makes you more money. Start small and build up with whatever you feel comfortable with after a few weeks.
RE: Another Noob Question
@Mr-Matt I'm not, I just always look at the worst case.
If I needed all the money I have in the index now then how much would I be able to take out? It's just a personal way that I like to look at how much profit I've made.
Purely a paper exercise.
RE: Average time before significant Profit
@NewUser156185 as others have said it depends on what you target.
If you aim for dividends alone then 1-2% a month would be a fair and reasonable target and should be easy enough with a little research. Potentially you could get up to 5% if you did very well.
If you want target capital growth I think you should be going for 5% a month although the comission will erode the profit down a little as you need to sell players to release the profit.
You might pick up some dividends going for capital growth and will get some growth aiming for dividends so hard to say exactly but I think that if you put £1k in now you should hope to be able to walk away in 6 months with £1200 at least and if you did well then £1500 wouldn't be unreasonable.
Some people will do better and others worse but most will turn a profit which is more than can be said for other Betting sites.
One word of caution is that I doubt many people have actually withdrawn more than they have put in as this is a very adictive platform (because it's great) and most dividends and earnings from capital growth have been plowed straight back Into the index.
Others can correct my figures of they disagree but I think they are fairly reasonable, maybe a little conservative if anything.
RE: Another Noob Question
@Kndybrzilnmesi You're a plum.
But seriously, yes dividends count as part of the profits you make. Really they are the purest form of profit as they are cash paid to you. Personally I calculate profit as; current value of portfolio x0.98. + Current balance - total deposited. Although if I wanted to sell up and leave it would have to be total deposited - current instant sell price of each player X 0.98 + current balance.
Never feel guilty about asking the question. This forum will always give an answer (often not to the question you asked) and there will always be someone else reading that wanted the answer. So welcome and continue asking if you need help. Hope this answers the question you asked.
RE: Where do Mbappe owners stand?
@PaulR I think that's a very good assesment of the market. There is definitely a profit opportunity guessing what others will do rather than looking at potential dividends. Personally I prefer looking at facts and stats rather than 'He's really good at football, I'll have 500'.
Mbappe is a star. He's like a FIFA regen of Henry. But i think he came 4th out of 4 forwards yesterday when he was argueably the best player on the pitch.
If he starts bringing in dividends then he will continue to rise. If it all goes quiet at the start of the year and his PB performance continues then I predict a slow drop back to £6ish.
RE: Could the index reduce dividends
@Don-keyballs No, it doesn't need losers unless the amount of money in the index goes down or stagnates.
If it did go down then you would need people to lose money and these would probably be people that have made loads of money from FI anyway. Also no reason for it to go down unless people try to scare others away with negative forum posts.
FI are fine as long as comission is above dividend, and if dividends are reinvested (my guess is 90% are) then they are still fine. Which is why people going for sub £1 players and IPO's with little chance of dividends are great for them. Also why they run sweepstakes as realistically people have sold to free up money to get involved. They only need 4000 people to enter everyday to make a profit on the sweepstakes.
FI isnt perfect, we all have issues we want resloved. There is an inherent risk in all gambling but the base product and idea are great and instead of looking for negatives I think we should be providing new users and people wanting to invest more with as much reassurance, from our own experience, that this is not a scam and is a valid product with a much lower risk of loss than normal odds based gambling. I understand the questions and the reasons for them but you need to understand the reasons people are a little annoyed that a very active member of the forum is posting questions that are both easy to research and potentially off putting for other users.