@johnboywalker said in Market losing direction or just me?:

@RU99

PB players being battered ...

30 days ago price vrs price today.

Messi - approx £5.27 ... now £4.82
Parejo - approx £2.30 ... now £1.80
Jorginho - approx £2.13 ... now £1.78
Kroos - approx £4.26 ... now £3.59
Luis Alberto - approx 2.58 ... now £2.28

If that isn't PB players taking a battering, I don't know what is mate ... 🤷🏼‍♂️🤔

(KROOS price now edited, thanks Eric! 👍)

You've picked 5 players. 5 players with an average age of 29 1/2. Come on, how can we take you seriously with such selective picks like this?

As a player gets older, their time to win dividends decreases, so their price should dip. Some of these have come sooner than they should, of course - but at least be reasonable when picking samples ffs.

As I said - I have a PB port that has ranged from 25-30 players, which has a annualised ROI of near 45% over just over 5 months - so no, PB players are not getting battered. Your selective picking have been battered, but that is just to push your own agenda.

I don't see the "PB players being battered" scenario that many paint. The trend seems to be people getting bored of their high value PB player not winning divs for a few weeks or longer, so they sell. Price drops, even some usually logical traders panic and sell also compounding the issue. Said player wins divs - huge rise. Slowly drops again until the next win. The rises always beat the drops (barring age concerns etc with certain players) - so if you have good PB players patience is key.

100 days ago I had a £16.5k port, with about 95% of it purely on high value (average cost per share circa £4) dividend players. My port is now £18.5k - a 12% rise - which if scaled up is circa 45% ROI over a year - and that is with a few duff decisions. Sure, if you look to closely at a certain 5 or 10 day period you will more than likely find dips, but its key to look at circa 20/50/100 day scenarios.

@NewUser485810 said in Stefan Ilsanker . Why so cheap?:

one of my first buys this man. in the europa cup for eintracht tonight part of Austrias euro squad. a sofascore rating of 7.4 .
And hes only 25 p/share . i hope he gets a good performance and rises a bit. ok he might be 30 years old but still . There ares some real bargains out there with older players in pb leagues imo. Does anyone know of others?

What is his average PB, top 5 max PBs and how much divs has he won in the past 2/3 years?

@Gary-T said in Some clarity please:

Thanks for all the info guys. So for clarity and to make sure I am not being a complete numpty it doesn't matter if it is 16p, 54p or a £1 you could be first in line to sell or at the bottom of the pile.

In theory - correct.

Any ideas?

He will win 5p today, maybe 3p tomorrow depending on what happens tonight.

Will never win anything again.

There's an idea.

Viva IR35! Pay yer taxes ye dodgers :)

@ScouseSte said in February's biggest risers...:

Personally, I think FI know that their risers list is a crock of shit and that's why they've put out some actual useful information in February's summary.

The thing is, they will never tweak or get rid of the risers list because it must generate so much income for them, in commission and the selling off of basically worthless futures.

Today is a prime example - the "top riser" has risen FOUR PENCE!! :

It costs buttons to move an 8p player to 12p, so it's the most irrelevant piece of trading to be given the spotlight. Can somebody tell me exactly how much it would have cost to move an 8p player to 12p?

Hopefully FI regularly send out these monthly highest risers (in £) lists and keep the quality information coming 👍

A huge £342 has went into him...big bucks!

IF it happens, yes.

Bruno supplying Kane & Rashford....plus Sancho.....title winners. FI terms = ££££.

I see it as a massive if though.

I'm tempted to sell, as I'm sure all holders who got on before the first batch of rumours at £2.70-£2.90ish are....but I love them divs.

I'm holding until £10+.

At this rate that might be a couple weeks away only!

If you don't think they have a good chance (ie, not 2/3 times in their whole playing career) of winning dividends....why would you buy them, and why would others buy them to give you CA?

When the whole market wakes up to this, those holding players purely because they are cheap will get burned, and burned badly.

Port size doesn't matter, ROI does and should align to your risk persuasion.