If only your football knowledge was as good as your ability to create a new thread...

Anyway, football knowledge is clearly important but I honestly don’t think it’s the most important aspect. I have some friends that joined that have search a nerdy amount of football knowledge, they struggled as they would often buy/sell at the wrong time. There is also good money to be made on obvious players such as kroos recently, doesn’t have to be someone obscure.

If you can understand trends, have a sensible strategy, hold your nerve and combine that with doing a bit of research on the forum and elsewhere I’d say that’s better than just knowing a load about football.

@NewUser159387 These are all brilliant trades but, in my view, represent the riskier options, I still see Pogba and Neymar as low risk. I think I follow a pretty sensible/standard FI approach, the big hitters offer stability and divs - then try and blend that with the sort of trades you've mentioned. Whilst many follow a similar approach there will always be value in the likes of Pogba.

@Jamiearsenal93 Another good example today... I've had Dembele for sale for a while at £2.35. Had a busy day at work and didn't see the rumours, just logged on now to see my shares sold earlier and his IS price has already dropped back down to £1.99.

Order books can work really well with a bit of patience.

@Archer22 With all the recent focus on intrinsic value Messi is difficult to overlook. Obviously the age worries people, but I look at the div table and think he could genuinely return his price in divs over the next 12 months. Would take a pretty impressive effort, but it's Messi we are talking about!

@Dan-The-Man Totally understand, I think peoples decisions over the next few weeks will be a lot more driven by their risk appetite than on the old FI. Even if you perceive a player to be good value it does still feel less predictable because we are less sure how the overall market will act. I really wouldn't be that surprised if Pogba was anywhere between £3-£7 come 5pm on Saturday.

I bought Kane last night at £4 and just sold for £5.45! I was pretty pleased with myself but £3.60 is ridiculous, well done!!

The div increase has made PB so much more exciting. I hold Maddison and that tense, love that 1 point win!

@Nally A few people have made the point that Rashford almost came on the scene too early for football index.

He scored two goals on his United debut in the europa league, then two against arsenal in a 3-2 win before going on to score on his England debut. If a player did that today I think they would hit £6 - £7.

So yes I agree that Rashford is a good price, but I think this comes down to timing. People are less forgiving of his dry spell last season because he’s been around a few years, but in reality he’s a 21 year old nailed on starter for England and man united. Definitely one of the safest long term holds around for me.

@NewUser239977 overly simplistic way of looking at it, I’m a big fan of Barnes and bought 100 futures just before his loan recall, but they are different players. Barnes is powerful and aggressive, but grays skill/dribbling is far superior.
Not starting today though which is a shame after how good he was on Tuesday.

@Shippers 100%. Change freaks us all out at first though. Yesterday I finally upgraded to an iPhone without the home button, I hated it for a good few hours. Totally fine with it now and forgot about it today until I decided this would be a good analogy.

@Jamiearsenal93 Another good example today... I've had Dembele for sale for a while at £2.35. Had a busy day at work and didn't see the rumours, just logged on now to see my shares sold earlier and his IS price has already dropped back down to £1.99.

Order books can work really well with a bit of patience.

@Jamiearsenal93 Managed it with a few players, but i do have a quite a few more listed. So far Kane, Mount and Trossard, all rose during games and then my offers matched.

Assume if you're trying to sell more than 300 then you can just keep undercutting your own offers though? So it's only really an issue for people with less than 300?

Listed several players above their buy now price and they eventually sold. Depends on the player and if you can be patient!

@NewUser565183 🤯

Can someone help me out, this makes no sense to me. I have just got back from the pub though so hopefully I’m being stupid.

If the buy now price is VWAP of 900 shares and there are 450 shares at £4 and 450 at £6 giving a VWAP buy now price of £5. This suggest I can only place an offer 1p below the buy now price, therefore £4.99... but this is 99p above the lowest offer?

That makes no sense, am I drunk?!

@Kanzz Yea order books have changed my perception of Messi. Also, for me the most fun I have with FI is winning star man on gold days. I think once he gets a few of those then his price might shift!

@OneBigHoliday I agree with you to an extent and the main conversation i've been having with friends is whether it's less fun and more complex or if that's just how it currently feels. I'm not sure where i've landed on that just yet.

FI offers something different to that traditional bet though and I think that's why many of us love it. I love some of the debates on players and trying to analyse data in a way that I never would for a typical £10 bet. If it becomes too complex then yes we lose that, but i dont think we are at that point yet.

@OneBigHoliday hahaa, it's far from perfect as an analogy! However, I clearly wasn't trying to compare the button on my phone to the intricacies of FI, just an example of how we typically don't like change at first even if they are an improvement.

IMO there are elements of the recent change that people will be fine with once they are more familiar.

@Archer22 Can he finally just capitalise on his xG! If something clicks with his finishing he's going to be ridiculous. Looked so dangerous on Sunday but again didn't manage to score.