Michael Keane has possibly highlighted a massive flaw in the 1p sell offer limit. I dont have the number of futures bought yesterday for my calculations so these are just rough estimates to highlihgt the issue.

Yesterday morning Keane was valued at 44p scoring a goal and a good PB score saw his price increase to 80p.

Lets say 10,000 shares were bought yesterday (I dont know how many)

This morning his IS reduced to 36p and his buy now price reduced to 78p.

Of the 10,000 shares bought yesterday, lets assume 2,500 IS this morning, meaning the other 7500 are going into the sell queue or people are going to hold.

With the 1p restriction and 900 shares to move the price down 1p it's going to take approx. 30,000 shares to bring him down to 47p, which is going to take a lot of listing.

This will still leave him with around 25% spread.

What's likely to happen now is that Keane's IS price will stay in the 30p region and his buy price will stay in the 70p region (58% spread). Nobody is going to buy for 70 odd pence and if they're still holding now they probably aren't going to IS for 30 something pence.

Keane is likely to be stuck with a buy price of 70+ pence with no real way of reducing the massive spread.

Lots of users are going to be looking at their portfolios this morning looking at the green numbers next to Keane thinking it's amazing, they've made 80% CapApp, they've got big green numbers next to his name when in reality he's not worth that and nobody is going to pay that for him.

In 6 months time Keane will probably still have a buy price of 70p and when OBs come in he's going to drop down to around half of that, then all these people posting their profit margins this morning are going to be crying they've lost 50% of their "profit".

I'd rather 200 Neymars 😂😂

@Harford-is-God
Users can't bury their heads in the ground and act like they didn't know this was coming, most people on here call themselves traders for fuck sake and the product calls itself the Football Stockmarket. NASDAQ was announced over a year ago so everyone has had ample time to prepare for order books and what's happening.

I'd never used OBs until 6 months ago but had a play about on crypto exchanges, virtual markets and Footstock to get an understanding. I agree that FI should have put some sort of stuff out there to educate users but they didn't and they probably wont do when NASDAQ comes in. There were enough threads and podcasts out there to educate users.

I generally only think of IPD as a nice to have rather than a buying strategy. I tried it a bit last season and didnt enjoy it and came out just about even.

If you're looking at flipping someone every 30 days, I was looking at strikers priced under 60p and and for it to be profitable to need them to score at least twice that month. A lot of the IPD players from last season have gone too expensive for flipping this season IMO

Funny reading these old posts (even though it's only 4 months) Havertz being at £1.06 was too good an opportunity not to sell 😂

Makes me realise that even though my port is down a little now in 3 or 4 months it's going to look completely different

@ScouseSte This isn't saving a sinking ship, it's papering over the cracks and pushing it further out to sea.

There's no logical reason for 80% of the top 200 to increase in price because of that announcement, player values haven't changed overnight.

Who know's how long it's going to take NASDAQ to come in, 6 months-12 months who knows? This current system isn't sustainable and will create a much larger bubble than what we've had over the past few months.

Liquidity will become nonexistant, people wont sell without taking a huge hit on the spread but at least eveyone will have pretty green numbers on their screen until the next crash.

I dont want to be this critical of FI but this is the first time i've been really concerned about the future of the platform. Brown sunday wasn't great but it would have recovered.

@Gary-T a smaller spread is much better as it minimises the risk to yourself. FI have a risk team who can manually adjust the spread of there's a lot of buying or selling of a player.

The spread is also there to protect you if there's a serious injury with a player. If they reduce the spread everyone would sell the player and his price would crash, by putting a large spread on it'll stop mass instant selling and the player will hold his value better.

I never used to look at spreads because I rarely instant sell, but others do so it can hinder their growth and is worth taking indy consideration

I've earned 7% in dividends in 5 months. I don't get people comparing dividends to commission and think the 2 figures have nothing at all to do with each other. I do quite a bit of trading so pay quite a bit of commission on profitable trades. That commission doesn't have anything to do with the dividends I earn

Can't believe some of the moaning on here, I know they can't please everyone but claiming FI are sneaking about is ridiculous. The IPOs were advertised yesterday, there's about 5 different threads on the forum about them and it's been all over twitter. If you didn't see them after all that, you obviously aren't paying enough attention and are going to miss loads.

Fisrt thing I did when I woke up this morning was type in "Carles Perez" and saw the IPOs had been released, that was just before 5am. I dedided I'd missed the boat and not get involved. Winners and losers.

I don't think I believe all the bot talk either, I've seen how fast some people on here react to injuries/transfers etc. The swings can be massive in seconds. In the last IPO release I spent a lot time typing players names into the search bar and managed to get on a few players pretty cheap. Even managed to get a video of Kubos price increasing and started recording at almost £1 before his peak price. Unfortunately I had no money left then to buy him.

Releasing the IPOs at random times is probably the fairest thing they can do.

Last season with Trent being on most set pieces he probably justified a price around 7 quid due to his attacking output, but this season shows that there aren't any guarantees and that a little change like losing some set pieces to Robertson can have a big impact on PB scores and price. Maybe it shows there's an issue with the scoring matrix being too heavily weighted towards set piece takers, but that's another matter.

Trent is still capable of hitting big peak scores and is capable of winning around 10% divs this season.

He's far from a guaranteed starter for England aswel, think Walker and Trippier have started more games in the past 12 months and James is going to throw in more competition.

@Ericali stats above show that over the past 10 games, Robbo has clearly been the better hold, outscoring Trent in most games. But comparing peak scores shows there was a reason for the disparity in price last season.

Top 5 scores since start of last season
TAA - 313, 299, 289, 267, 265
Robbo - 259, 257, 250, 228, 226

It's the peak scores which are going to get the big wins on a gold day, but will TAA regularly get the big scores now with less set pieces?

@DillyDong I haven't followed all of what's been happening recently and been less active on the forums the past few months but all the bitchinng has been a bit pathetic and ruined a lot of the forum.

In your post highlighting @MrWh1te calling people cunts, he's literally saying in every post to stop targeting him and leave him alone and here's another post attacking him. From the outside it looks like he's justafiably called out the cunts.

@G27 Yeah i saw that earlier after i posted, decided to check if there's been any updates and saw he's gone to Ipswich on loan for the season. Think he'll probably struggle to make it into a PB league now, Championship club might have been ok, but going to league 1 means he's probably not good enough. Thankfully i sold him last season for around 90p haha.

I dont hold any of them anymore but some players who've passed the eye test for me have been:

Josip Brekalo
Michael Cuisance
Abdulkadir Omur
Keanen Bennetts

Out of all of them i'm probably most confident about Omur, think he's got something special and will definitely be in a PB league next season. Brekalo is really good on his day but needs more consistency. Hopefully Cuisance can get regular game time and think he'll be a great hold going forward.
Keanen Bennetts is a bit of a punt, but i've been waiting for him to get some first team football for 18 months now, if he doesn't break into MG's team this season he's never going to make it.

September 2022

@NewUser549344 I'm struggling to upload pics. I was trying to show a screenshot of a tweet I sent yesterday about the same subject. So here's a copy and paste.

I can't value players at the moment so have sold everyone and just playing with a cash balance and short term trading.

I put this on another thread: But these are just 2 examples recently

I was buying Angel Correa yesterday for 63p and IS for 76p a couple of hours later, 24% profit.
I IS Michael Keane the day after he won divs for 33% loss but made 60% in dividends.
So much easy profit out there if people look for it.

Alexander Isak, Alejandro Gomez, Maupay, Ben Yedder, these are some of the players i've made 10%-25% over the past week or so. I dont think any of them have actually gone up in price, but trading between the spreads and in-play trading.

@DJ-110 said in Erling Braut Haaland WHY!:

Good chance he moves to the Premier League at some point. To say he wont at age 19 or whatever he is some Mystic Meg action to be fair.

I got him when the price crashed and will hold for a while.

I'm not sure he'll move to the prem, obviously nobody knows what's goign to happen in the future, but i genuinelly believe Haaland is going to be an elite player and I can't remember the last time a truly elite player moved to the premier league. If he keeps on going the way he is, he'll probably end up at Real Madrid, Barca or Bayern.

End of 5p IPD tonight aswel, interesting to see if there's any rises tonight when somone scores. The likes of Suarez should be a good 30 day IPD hold.

@NewUser217414 Love how you word your answers. You've WON 24 quid but he's gone down 48p hahaha Keep up the optimism.

There's no denying he's a great player, but overpriced on FI for my liking.